Ahsoka (August 22nd) Disney+

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BisonVol said:
Absolutely. Bringing Hayden back was a brilliant decision, and the way they used him was even more brilliant.
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Also for me this episode completely redeemed him as Anakin and imo proved the problem was never him, it was George Lucas' terrible dialouge and directing in the PT.
 
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Is this six or eight episodes? They're going to have a lot to cover if it's almost done
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Also for me this episode completely redeemed him as Anakin and imo proved the problem was never him, it was George Lucas' terrible dialouge and directing in the PT.
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Me and a buddy of mine have long felt like George Lucas, despite being incredibly brilliant, had some really cheesy dialogue in his prequel scripts. I don’t know how any actor could have pulled off the whole “I don’t like sand.” quote from Attack of the Clones. GL was just setting up Hayden for failure with that quote and some of the Padme conversations as well.

It was just really cool seeing Anakin and kid Ahsoka in live action for the first time. Hearing Hayden call Ahsoka “Snips” brought back some memories of great Clone Wars moments. I doubt this will happen, but I wouldn’t mind seeing a live action Clone Wars mini series with Hayden and Ariana. There was a planned story arc that got canceled where Anakin and Ahsoka were going to stop Sidious from obtaining kyber crystals. That would be a nice story for a mini series.
 
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BisonVol said:
Me and a buddy of mine have long felt like George Lucas, despite being incredibly brilliant, had some really cheesy dialogue in his prequel scripts. I don’t know how any actor could have pulled off the whole “I don’t like sand.” quote from Attack of the Clones. GL was just setting up Hayden for failure with that quote and some of the Padme conversations as well.

It was just really cool seeing Anakin and kid Ahsoka in live action for the first time. Hearing Hayden call Ahsoka “Snips” brought back some memories of great Clone Wars moments. I doubt this will happen, but I wouldn’t mind seeing a live action Clone Wars mini series with Hayden and Ariana. There was a planned story arc that got canceled where Anakin and Ahsoka were going to stop Sidious from obtaining kyber crystals. That would be a nice story for a mini series.
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That was the biggest problem with the prequel trilogy, Lucas was surrounded by yes-people who wouldn't tell him something sucks. The OT he did have that up until ROTJ at least. There are clips of Mark Hamill even back then telling Lucas that "people don't talk like this." in trying to get lines removed or changed.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
That was the biggest problem with the prequel trilogy, Lucas was surrounded by yes-people who wouldn't tell him something sucks. The OT he did have that up until ROTJ at least. There are clips of Mark Hamill even back then telling Lucas that "people don't talk like this." in trying to get lines removed or changed.
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Agree 100%. By that time, GL’s ego was much bigger than it was when he was making the OT. Surrounded by a cast of relative unknowns aside from Samuel L Jackson and Liam Neeson in Phantom Menace, nobody was going to call him out on anything.

The prequel trilogy will always have a special place in my heart because I grew up on it and because of the epic lightsaber duels, but the script was just disastrous at times.

From a narrative perspective, I think the biggest mistake GL made from a story perspective was making the Phantom Menace about Anakin as a child. Had the first prequel movie been about Anakin’s time as a padawan, his turn to the dark side could have been more gradual and more believable than it ended up being in ROTS. I get the thinking behind introducing
Anakin as a kid, but it was just a mistake.
 
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Hayden got a raw deal. The prequels could have been so good. He just looked the part. I just wish Kenobi hadn’t f’d up the final battle which I believe they did. By making the show and rewriting the way the last time we met line red it really weakened Vader lord. He goes from a saber fight using just his force powers to losing from rocks he could easily have turned into dust.
 
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BisonVol said:
Agree 100%. By that time, GL’s ego was much bigger than it was when he was making the OT. Surrounded by a cast of relative unknowns aside from Samuel L Jackson and Liam Neeson in Phantom Menace, nobody was going to call him out on anything.

The prequel trilogy will always have a special place in my heart because I grew up on it and because of the epic lightsaber duels, but the script was just disastrous at times.

From a narrative perspective, I think the biggest mistake GL made from a story perspective was making the Phantom Menace about Anakin as a child. Had the first prequel movie been about Anakin’s time as a padawan, his turn to the dark side could have been more gradual and more believable than it ended up being in ROTS. I get the thinking behind introducing
Anakin as a kid, but it was just a mistake.
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I think it was fine introducing Anakin as a slave. My personal opinion is that he was too young and it would have made for a better movie if he had been at least 13 instead of 8. Not to mention the already awkward age gap between little Anny and Padme.

Having said that, my kids love little Anny. I guess they relate to him. Maybe they grow up to be annoyed by him but that’s just more evidence that SW is at its heart a kids movie.
 
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BisonVol said:
Agree 100%. By that time, GL’s ego was much bigger than it was when he was making the OT. Surrounded by a cast of relative unknowns aside from Samuel L Jackson and Liam Neeson in Phantom Menace, nobody was going to call him out on anything.

The prequel trilogy will always have a special place in my heart because I grew up on it and because of the epic lightsaber duels, but the script was just disastrous at times.

From a narrative perspective, I think the biggest mistake GL made from a story perspective was making the Phantom Menace about Anakin as a child. Had the first prequel movie been about Anakin’s time as a padawan, his turn to the dark side could have been more gradual and more believable than it ended up being in ROTS. I get the thinking behind introducing
Anakin as a kid, but it was just a mistake.
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I think that and trying to tie things into the OT too much. I get why he did it but like making R2 and C3P0 be there the whole time and Anakin be the one who built 3P0 in hindsight was kinda silly now imo.
 
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BenGrimm said:
I think it was fine introducing Anakin as a slave. My personal opinion is that he was too young and it would have made for a better movie if he had been at least 13 instead of 8. Not to mention the already awkward age gap between little Anny and Padme.

Having said that, my kids love little Anny. I guess they relate to him. Maybe they grow up to be annoyed by him but that’s just more evidence that SW is at its heart a kids movie.
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The age gap was definitely a little strange. Felt like Anakin aged 10 years between episodes 1 and 2 while Padme only aged 4, maybe 5 years.
 
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Thrawn could have been played by a better actor......I mean the voice is neat but dude looks like he should be on the real housewives of tattooine. Is it just my wishful thinking or is Sabine and Shin about to have a far away galaxy romance soon.
 
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northknoxvol said:
Thrawn could have been played by a better actor......I mean the voice is neat but dude looks like he should be on the real housewives of tattooine. Is it just my wishful thinking or is Sabine and Shin about to have a far away galaxy romance soon.
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I thought he was solid except for the hair piece.
 
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