‘23 AL CB Rickey Gibson (Tennessee commit)

[daugag02]

He also had the best secondary in years statistic wise during the Butch years….. that’s the important part.

His list also selectively leaves off Cam Sutton and Emanuel Moseley despite Martinez being the coach who developed them for three years.

 

[EastTNVol95]

His list also selectively leaves off Cam Sutton and Emanuel Moseley despite Martinez being the coach who developed them for three years.

How many of the blue chip secondary guys we are recruiting do you think know who those guys are? That pitch sells to under the radar three star guys but not to elite DB’s. That’s the point I was mainly trying to make.

If he proves me wrong this recruiting class I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong. I’m not calling for the guys job…just raising a question about his ability to be an elite SEC recruiter.

 

[daugag02]

How many of the blue chip secondary guys we are recruiting do you think know who those guys are?

Your question is whether high school DBs know who the starting corners for the Pittsburgh Steelers and San Francisco 49ers are? Yeah, I think they are aware.

 

[DaddyChad]

I’m not saying the guy can’t develop NFL players but he has not proven that he can land blue chip DB’s and make them high draft picks. Guys we are after like Jakeem Jackson and Jordan Matthews could care less that he developed Theo Jackson into a sixth round pick.

Jackson could’ve cared less if nick Saban was coaching CBs here. Kid was hell bent on Florida there was no one with a brain that thought he was coming here.

 

[allvolrecruiting]

I’m not saying the guy can’t develop NFL players but he has not proven that he can land blue chip DB’s and make them high draft picks. Guys we are after like Jakeem Jackson and Jordan Matthews could care less that he developed Theo Jackson into a sixth round pick.

Alontae went 2nd round but you only talking about the 6th round guy...

 

[Volinnooga]

I don't usually like to throw the word "need" around when talking about recruits, but I really do believe that we need both Matthews and Gibson. Tons of potential at a position where the depth might be there but the production has been sorely lacking for some time.

Those stud pass rushers we've been collecting over the last two classes won't really matter much if the WRs aren't covered.

while I agree we need Matthews and Gibson, I’d say those stud pash rushers we have signed the past 2 years will make our CBs better. With no pass rushers, even strong CBs are in trouble.

 

[BelieveTheHeup93]

while I agree we need Matthews and Gibson, I’d say those stud pash rushers we have signed the past 2 years will make our CBs better. With no pass rushers, even strong CBs are in trouble.

You need both. Especially nowadays where a majority of QBs are dual threat QBs rather than pocket passers

 

[BelieveTheHeup93]

...
Wow.
Ok.

You just talked about having too many safeties.. then you mention Zach Meyers?. Strike ONE for you
He IS a safety or possession WR. The fact that you mentioned him playing CB means you can't qualify needed talent as you just argued for.

No interior DL? Hello Duncan and Weathersby! Strike TWO . Not to mention the guys added from 2022.

3rd, did you really just question...us taking a commitment from the best player in High school this year??? Because we don't need an elite QB?? What haha!? So a system built for a QB to succeed, and you think we shouldn't get the best possible QB???

What is wrong with you?

That’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying we’re only able to land elite players at positions where it’s not exactly necessarily for us to have success. For instance with the class we landed last year and seeing what Heupel and Halzle did with Hooker signing some elite CBs, LBs, and interior DL likely would’ve helped speed up the rebuild better than signing more edge rushers when we already have that. Because I’m not sure the difference in having Jackson at QB and Nico will be that significant, and if that 2M a year he will receive could’ve landed us someone like Jackson, Matthews, and Rojas I think it would’ve helped us more. I’m not complaining that we did it, but there’s no denying the fact this staff values offense and edge rushers more than stopping the run and covering the future NFL WRs that are all over the SEC

 

[BelieveTheHeup93]

...
Wow.
Ok.

You just talked about having too many safeties.. then you mention Zach Meyers?. Strike ONE for you
He IS a safety or possession WR. The fact that you mentioned him playing CB means you can't qualify needed talent as you just argued for.

No interior DL? Hello Duncan and Weathersby! Strike TWO . Not to mention the guys added from 2022.

3rd, did you really just question...us taking a commitment from the best player in High school this year??? Because we don't need an elite QB?? What haha!? So a system built for a QB to succeed, and you think we shouldn't get the best possible QB???

What is wrong with you?

If you can’t look at this staff’s first 2 recruiting classes and realize that we’re going to have major depth issues at corner and LB next season I don’t know what to tell you. It’s even more concerning that those positions are currently our biggest issues on the roster and that in year 3 it likely still won’t be addressed, and best case scenario we’re starting 4-5 star freshmen in 2024

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

You need both. Especially nowadays where a majority of QBs are dual threat QBs rather than pocket passers

No corner can cover forever, you got to get to the quarterback. GBO!

 

[Devo182]

Sounds like uga has a spot for him. Liked his visit. They think he may come off the board before September.

 

[BelieveTheHeup93]

No corner can cover forever, you got to get to the quarterback. GBO!

Of course, but unless we’re able to get another Derek Barnett on the roster and a Corey Vereen or Curt Maggit on the other side. Which isn’t very likely The current “corners” we have aren’t going to cut it. We should be signing at least 2-3 per class and 1 needs to be a blue chip prospect, and we’re just under 5 months away from ESD and have none. Unless going 8-4 or 9-3 is the ultimate goal. Which the staff has said isn’t. I’m not necessarily disappointed about missing on Jackson because that was expected. What’s disappointed is that this staff apparently didn’t even try to target other guys early on in the process. Because according to “insiders” on here Strozier and Conyer were at the top of their board, and Strozier was understandable. Conyer is a completely different story though. It also seems they’re content with only taking 2 LBs as well. From how we’ve recruiting both HS and in the portal last season it just doesn’t seem like we’ve pursued corners and LBs as hard as we should have. Because there were numerous programs that are inferior to Tennessee that landed players at those positions that could’ve contributed immediately

 

[sjt18]

Of course, but unless we’re able to get another Derek Barnett on the roster and a Corey Vereen or Curt Maggit on the other side. Which isn’t very likely

Why? UT has had a long, long history of good and great pass rushers. On what do you base the prediction that UT will get players on that level or that Baron and Young haven't developed into something in that range over the off season?

The current “corners” we have aren’t going to cut it.

The play UT got from everyone except Taylor last year won't cut it. But unless you just started watching UT you've seen MANY guys get better. A lot better and particularly at CB over the last 15-20 years.

We should be signing at least 2-3 per class and 1 needs to be a blue chip prospect, and we’re just under 5 months away from ESD and have none.

I won't claim to know what UT has or will have when they're done. You don't either. And have you really thought about how reliable a "blue chip" rating for a HS CB is? Who do they face on any kind of regular basis that proves they're "blue chip"? That is a particular position where the recruiting sites have almost nothing to go on other than 40 times and who is recruiting a player.

Unless going 8-4 or 9-3 is the ultimate goal. Which the staff has said isn’t. I’m not necessarily disappointed about missing on Jackson because that was expected. What’s disappointed is that this staff apparently didn’t even try to target other guys early on in the process.

Who do you think outside of a very, very small circle knows who the staff is evaluating and recruiting? Recruits talk or they don't talk. The ones who do... you know who they talk to. But several times last year and even this year UT has taken a commit completely out of the blue.

Because according to “insiders” on here Strozier and Conyer were at the top of their board, and Strozier was understandable. Conyer is a completely different story though. It also seems they’re content with only taking 2 LBs as well. From how we’ve recruiting both HS and in the portal last season it just doesn’t seem like we’ve pursued corners and LBs as hard as we should have. Because there were numerous programs that are inferior to Tennessee that landed players at those positions that could’ve contributed immediately

Or... they've simply chosen not to tell you and me what they're doing or why. You are having a spasm with a fraction of the information it should take for that kind of reaction.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I find it hilarious that it’s somehow ridiculous to even question a coach on this staff.

 

[KnoxToTheBoro93]

I find it hilarious that it’s somehow ridiculous to even question a coach on this staff.

Why would you question anyone on this staff at this point ? That’s the problem with this microwave generation… coaches and players both can get better it was year 1 with a thin roster for every coach and we improved across the board from the previous year… just relax good grief some of y’all complain so much and the season ain’t even started… heup is changing the culture and if we have the season that we should then the recruiting will take care of itself.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Why would you question anyone on this staff at this point ? That’s the problem with this microwave generation… coaches and players both can get better it was year 1 with a thin roster for every coach and we improved across the board from the previous year… just relax good grief some of y’all complain so much and the season ain’t even started… heup is changing the culture and if we have the season that we should then the recruiting will take care of itself.

Ok this is what I have asked and I will ask you the same. Now our secondary was really bad la at year. That’s not debatable. Yes injuries played a part as well as being new. Fine. Last year was a mulligan. But what about this year?

Now this is a what if scenario. What happens if our secondary is equally bad this year or worse? You mean you wouldn’t question Martinez? Also keep in mind Martinez has quite a bit of experience in the SEC. He isn’t some new guy that’s not recruited at the highest level. So he should be under more scrutiny than a newer coach like Kelsey Pope.

It’s absolutely fair to bring up criticisms and questions about Martinez. That doesn’t mean he needs to be fired or anything. It just means that if he doesn’t step it up on the coaching and recruiting then he may become a problem moving forward.

 

[VolByLaw]

A player I think UGA has made a really big move with is 2023 CB Rickey Gibson from Alabama this weekend. Georgia worked him out in June, offered him on the spot. He was back over today and I think he has spot in this class.

-Rusty Mansell

 

[Volnatic]

-Rusty Mansell

Well ****.

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

Well ****.

VOLS gonna get Rickey

 

[butchna]

I find it hilarious that it’s somehow ridiculous to even question a coach on this staff.

I find it comedic that you strongly feel it helps anything.

 

[butchna]

Ok this is what I have asked and I will ask you the same. Now our secondary was really bad la at year. That’s not debatable. Yes injuries played a part as well as being new. Fine. Last year was a mulligan. But what about this year?

Now this is a what if scenario. What happens if our secondary is equally bad this year or worse? You mean you wouldn’t question Martinez? Also keep in mind Martinez has quite a bit of experience in the SEC. He isn’t some new guy that’s not recruited at the highest level. So he should be under more scrutiny than a newer coach like Kelsey Pope.

It’s absolutely fair to bring up criticisms and questions about Martinez. That doesn’t mean he needs to be fired or anything. It just means that if he doesn’t step it up on the coaching and recruiting then he may become a problem moving forward.

Can we PLAY the year first or have you run out of Adderall?

 

[Wokepack]

-Rusty Mansell

I knew that visit was going to be bad news for us. If we can land this guy or Matthews it would help this class tremendously. Can't afford to miss on both.

 

[LittleVol]

I find it hilarious that it’s somehow ridiculous to even question a coach on this staff.

Coaches make mistakes all the time, but I'm pretty sure you've said many times
"I'll trust the coaches eval"....

Yeah, coaches mess up all the time.
Hello JOE MILTON.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

Coaches make mistakes all the time, but I'm pretty sure you've said many times
"I'll trust the coaches eval"....

Yeah, coaches mess up all the time.
Hello JOE MILTON.

I still would trust the coaches evaluations over folks on this board, myself included. But it’s human nature to second guess. And no they don’t get it right everytime. But the good ones get it right a lot. And of course a lot goes into it including the player and his commitment to the game. Many things go into it, but the coaches are the ones paid to make them decisions.GBO!

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I find it comedic that you strongly feel it helps anything.

I honestly don’t care what you think