Al Fraken's Operation KAOS Ron Paul's forces quietly plot GOP convention revolt again

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MG1968 said:
ok, but what do Al Franken and Ron Paul have to do with each other? I know the Paulies are plotting mischief at the GOP convention, but I still don't get the Franken reference.

Unless, of course, you mean that since Al Franken is a failed comedian who's about as funny as drying paint and the current GOP is a Greek tragedy waiting to happen, then yeah, I can see the reference.

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Franken is Air America's answer to Rush and Rush is running the KAOS program so my reference is Franken is running his own KAOS effort against McCain.
 
#52
#52
so Franken is pulling Ron Paul's strings?

I always thought that Paul looked like one of those puppets in "The Sound of Music".
 
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The few people I know who are still actively supporting Ron Paul are early/mi-20 somethings who work in the service industry (waiting tables). I have a feeling that they'd be support Obama if they did not have Paul. In the end, Ron Paul will not hurt the republicans. What will hurt the Rs the most is if the ultra right wing social conservatives find some alternative, even if it is staying home.

It's weird to me that, based on past history and voting record as opposed to campaign rhetoric, McCain may be the closest thing the Rs will ever have to a libertarian at the top of the ticket (other than Goldwater, maybe). Despite that, you have people who feel compelled to support someone like Paul, or Barr, because McCain is not libertarian enough. It sort of reinforces my belief that the third parties, including the libertarian party, are little more than a haven for contrarians as opposed to real catalysts for change. The last time a third party broke through was 1860 and it resulted in civil war.
 
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MG1968 said:
ok, but what do Al Franken and Ron Paul have to do with each other? I know the Paulies are plotting mischief at the GOP convention, but I still don't get the Franken reference.
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I haven't heard about that, but if they are, it might actually be a good thing to see them stir up some crap at the convention. It will be the only way the real issues will be discussed...
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
The few people I know who are still actively supporting Ron Paul are early/mi-20 somethings who work in the service industry (waiting tables). I have a feeling that they'd be support Obama if they did not have Paul. In the end, Ron Paul will not hurt the republicans. What will hurt the Rs the most is if the ultra right wing social conservatives find some alternative, even if it is staying home.

It's weird to me that, based on past history and voting record as opposed to campaign rhetoric, McCain may be the closest thing the Rs will ever have to a libertarian at the top of the ticket (other than Goldwater, maybe). Despite that, you have people who feel compelled to support someone like Paul, or Barr, because McCain is not libertarian enough. It sort of reinforces my belief that the third parties, including the libertarian party, are little more than a haven for contrarians as opposed to real catalysts for change. The last time a third party broke through was 1860 and it resulted in civil war.
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McCain is not the closest thing to a libertarian... far from it. The closest the GOP has gotten to having a libertarian in my lifetime was probably Reagan... and that ain't really saying much.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
McCain is not the closest thing to a libertarian... far from it. The closest the GOP has gotten to having a libertarian in my lifetime was probably Reagan... and that ain't really saying much.
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I think the jist of the what he was saying is that McCain is a catalyst for change... and that is like saying Al Franken is funny... you gotta be really dry to think so.

Newsflash... if McCain gets elected... not a whole lot is going to be different for another 4 years. You can take that to the bank. Also VHB... the Civil War had been brewing for many, many, many years before it started. The result of the 1860 election was not the Civil War. :crazy:


OrangeEmpire said:
Not at all, he is by far the best choice of any one the past 20 years.
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He could be the best choice in the past 40 years... but that isnt saying anything at all.
 
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CovVol said:
I think the jist of the what he was saying is that McCain is a catalyst for change... and that is like saying Al Franken is funny... you gotta be really dry to think so.

Newsflash... if McCain gets elected... not a whole lot is going to be different for another 4 years. You can take that to the bank. Also VHB... the Civil War had been brewing for many, many, many years before it started. The result of the 1860 election was not the Civil War. :crazy:




He could be the best choice in the past 40 years... but that isnt saying anything at all.
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The roots of the Civil War started in the 1810's.....
 
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