‘23 AL RB Khalifa Keith (Tennessee)

[thunder5]

Bumped from a 5.5 to a 5.7 3* on Rivals

 

[ACvol3]

Bumped from a 5.5 to a 5.7 3* on Rivals

I wonder what they see that he lacks to be a 4*

 

[thunder5]

I wonder what they see that he lacks to be a 4*

They're not all in on the Heupal bump yet...they'll get there

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Bumped from a 5.5 to a 5.7 3* on Rivals

Yet another guy I will follow closely after he arrives. The staff seems to have determined he was a worthy investment for our big back need . Services pretty much have to rank guys based on where they have been, and coaches can augment that with their own evaluations of where he is today and where he can go with his physical skills and work ethic. We seem to have supplanted another kid for the big back need with this guy. Like always I will use the rankings as a probability of success and not a guarantee of or a ceiling on production.

Once he arrives, I will drop a data point on a trendline and see where it goes. We signed a guy with better odds last year and he is already in the portal. Predicting that rather than measuring it as it happens requires a bit of arrogance. Some hope kids beat the odds, others hope they do not to back up their agenda on the value of stars in tirades near signing days.

Like others, I do have much more confidence in 3 stars targeted before first signing day than I do after second signing day. Not sure how to value taking them now instead of waiting on portal opportunities in those windows. Too new to rate.

 

[thistime]

If this kid can catch a pass he is the ideal combo of size and speed for a h-back in our offense and then line him up next to Milton for a change of pace back and we could really have something special.

 

[swampfoxfan]

If this kid can catch a pass he is the ideal combo of size and speed for a h-back in our offense and then line him up next to Milton for a change of pace back and we could really have something special.

What is his speed?

 

[thistime]

What is his speed?

I have no idea but from looking at his highlights it seems he was running at a pretty good clip.

 

[bigl3327]

What is his speed?

Don't know times, but he got a lot faster from junior year to senior year.

 

[MemphisVol3]

Don't know times, but he got a lot faster from junior year to senior year.

Yeah scouting reports said he has breakaway speed which I can kind of see in his long runs. He's probably at least in that 4.5ish 40 range given his size.

 

[johnfnkelly]

Yeah scouting reports said he has breakaway speed which I can kind of see in his long runs. He's probably at least in that 4.5ish 40 range given his size.

If he's running a 4.5 at that size then he'll be playing year 1. Najee Harris ran a 4.6.

 

[WangoTango]

If he's running a 4.5 at that size then he'll be playing year 1. Najee Harris ran a 4.6.

I don't know of any numbers for him. I will say that from watching hours of film of guys like him, he's most likely in the 4.65 range. That's plenty fast to be an above average big back in CFB.

 

[bigl3327]

If he's running a 4.5 at that size then he'll be playing year 1. Najee Harris ran a 4.6.

This kid is probably in the 4.6 range, which is plenty fast since he's supposed to be closer to 230 right now. He will likely get faster in our S&C program.

 

[MemphisVol3]

If he's running a 4.5 at that size then he'll be playing year 1. Najee Harris ran a 4.6.

sorry, let me rephrase. He MIGHT be in that 4.5 - 4.6 (probably closer to 4.6) range but that's just based on the eye test. I haven't seen any official times on him but he's had plenty long touchdown runs.

 

[bigl3327]

I don't know of any numbers for him. I will say that from watching hours of film of guys like him, he's most likely in the 4.65 range. That's plenty fast to be an above average big back in CFB.

Same thought at the same time.

 

[johnfnkelly]

I don't know of any numbers for him. I will say that from watching hours of film of guys like him, he's most likely in the 4.65 range. That's plenty fast to be an above average big back in CFB.

I can't imagine Jabari runs much faster than a 4.5 and he's a beefed up 5'11 215.

Keith at 6'2 230 running a 4.6 is going to be a problem for opponents.

 

[MemphisVol3]

I can't imagine Jabari runs much faster than a 4.5 and he's a beefed up 5'11 215.

Keith at 6'2 230 running a 4.6 is going to be a problem for opponents.

Especially once the 4th quarter hits and we have enough backs to have fresh legs.

 

[WangoTango]

I can't imagine Jabari runs much faster than a 4.5 and he's a beefed up 5'11 215.

Keith at 6'2 230 running a 4.6 is going to be a problem for opponents.

Jabari is probably closer to Jennings 4.7. 40 times are wildly overstated.

 

[T2P_Priceless]

Jabari is probably closer to Jennings 4.7. 40 times are wildly overstated.

They should run 40 and other time tests in pads tbh. Plus I think 10 yard and shuttles are way more important. Particularly for RBs

40s matter in our offense for WRs but still should be done in pads

 

[bkbasketball]

 

[RiseToTheTop]

Jabari is probably closer to Jennings 4.7. 40 times are wildly overstated.

Yep

There’s no way Jabari is even close to 4.5.

 

[johnfnkelly]

They should run 40 and other time tests in pads tbh. Plus I think 10 yard and shuttles are way more important. Particularly for RBs

40s matter in our offense for WRs but still should be done in pads

Way more important. If you can't position yourself to find open field then having 4.4 home-run speed doesn't matter.

 

[MemphisVol3]

Jabari is probably closer to Jennings 4.7. 40 times are wildly overstated.

Very true, some people can have slower 40 times but higher top end speed and vice versa.

 

[bigl3327]

Very true, some people can have slower 40 times but higher top end speed and vice versa.

RB success is more about 10yd and 20yd splits, lateral quickness, start/stop ability, and vision. Straight line 40 speed and 100 meter times get overemphasized at the position to often. I'll take a 4.6 guy that averages 6 YPC over the 4.4 guy averaging 4 YPC every time.

 

[MemphisVol3]

RB success is more about 10yd and 20yd splits, lateral quickness, start/stop ability, and vision. Straight line 40 speed and 100 meter times get overemphasized at the position to often. I'll take a 4.6 guy that averages 6 YPC over the 4.4 guy averaging 4 YPC every time.

Oh yeah defintely. I'm not debating those things at all. Also have to be able to recognize and pick up blitzes too if you want playing time.

 

[WangoTango]

RB success is more about 10yd and 20yd splits, lateral quickness, start/stop ability, and vision. Straight line 40 speed and 100 meter times get overemphasized at the position to often. I'll take a 4.6 guy that averages 6 YPC over the 4.4 guy averaging 4 YPC every time.

Yessir! The NFL runs on RB's and WR's that can't crack 4.6 in the 40. They look for guys who can hop and get to whatever their top speed is within 5 yards of the LOS. Lean, hop and wiggle have made many a RB look like he's a 4.4 guy. WR's get free release in the NFL and are able to get to top speed quickly. The reality is that there have been very few of them all time.