AlGores Doomsday Countdown

#26
#26
I don't see trees in either picture....looks to far above a tree line. Not sure if that is the case.

The area of Argentina ,where the Upsala Glacier is, was a heavily wooded area. (Coihues and Canelos Forest area also runs into Chile) The surrounding area was dense forest area. But I could be wrong, so I defer to your supreme intelligence................ :bow:

Patagonia region of Argentinia.

Patagonia

Again, global warming is without a doubt real, it is a natural cycle the earth goes through.

Whether you want to believe radiation will some day melt your skin off is another matter.
 
#27
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 17 said:
The area of Argentina ,where the Upsala Glacier is, was a heavily wooded area. (Coihues and Canelos Forest area also runs into Chile) The surrounding area was dense forest area. But I could be wrong, so I defer to your supreme intelligence................ :bow:

Patagonia region of Argentinia.

Patagonia

Again, global warming is without a doubt real, it is a natural cycle the earth goes through.

Whether you want to believe radiation will some day melt your skin off is another matter.
I have actually done some studying about this as well and have a greater understanding.The bad thing is the ones causing it will leave the future generation to suffer for it.
 
#28
#28
I have actually done some studying about this as well and have a greater understanding.The bad thing is the ones causing it will leave the future generation to suffer for it.

You cannot tease and then not share you findings from your studies!

Is it our combustions engines or cutting down of trees?

Combination of both?


 
#29
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 17 said:
You cannot tease and then not share you findings from your studies!

Is it our combustions engines or cutting down of trees?

Combination of both?

doesn't cutting down trees contribute to global warming, as in the rainforest,etc. :D
 
#30
#30
You may remember this from a year or so ago. It's a study published in Science that suggests "Clean-air" efforts around the world while successful at removing pollutants from the air, have actually accelerated global warming.

Cleaner air impact on global warming


Findings such as this point out why some like myself are skeptical about all the "solutions" and "causes" of Global Warming.

If this data is true (or interpreted correctly) it just shows how well-intended efforts may not have the desired impact and in fact may cause more damage.

Many argue we can't wait but we also can't rush into solutions without understanding the consequences of those solutions.
 
#31
#31
doesn't cutting down trees contribute to global warming, as in the rainforest,etc.

I think cutting down of trees contributes 100% more than the combustion engine.

Personally I feel it is arrogant of man to think he is destroying the earth. I know that does not make any sense but I mean a car contributes a small bit, losing a tree is on a different level. *I know I make no sense, I wake up at 5 in the morning on days I work.*/*****

Yeah I know, man using a chainsaw and all of that, but in the end the tree contributes more to the planet than the average joe smoe driving an escalade right?
 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 18 said:
I think cutting down of trees contributes 100% more than the combustion engine.

Personally I feel it is arrogant of man to think he is destroying the earth. I know that does not make any sense but I mean a car contributes a small bit, losing a tree is on a different level. *I know I make no sense, I wake up at 5 in the morning on days I work.*/*****

Yeah I know, man using a chainsaw and all of that, but in the end the tree contributes more to the planet than the average joe smoe driving an escalade right?


I am always amazed at the human view of his importance in the world and the universe. The earth has gone through periods of warming and cooling for millions of years without the help of man, and no doubt will continue to do so as long as it exists.

I wonder, with all the technology we possess, if scientists have been able to determine any change in the earth's axis over the past 100 years or so. That could/would have more effect on the average temperature than anything man can do( with the possible exception of nuclear war).
 
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(KentheOrange @ Jun 18 said:
I wonder, with all the technology we possess, if scientists have been able to determine any change in the earth's axis over the past 100 years or so.


Crap! Now we have to worry about "Global Tilting"! :w00t:
 
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#35
:ill_h4h:

We are crazy?

You think our skin is going to melt off........... :moon2: :moon2: :moon2: :moon2: :moon2: :moon2:
 
#36
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 18 said:
:ill_h4h:

We are crazy?

You think our skin is going to melt off........... :moon2: :moon2: :moon2: :moon2: :moon2: :moon2:

My skin won't. This strictly applies to the mess of you who think global warming isn't real. Your skin is going to melt off.
 
#38
#38
(KentheOrange @ Jun 18 said:
I am always amazed at the human view of his importance in the world and the universe. The earth has gone through periods of warming and cooling for millions of years without the help of man, and no doubt will continue to do so as long as it exists.

I wonder, with all the technology we possess, if scientists have been able to determine any change in the earth's axis over the past 100 years or so. That could/would have more effect on the average temperature than anything man can do( with the possible exception of nuclear war).


and we were also created out of knowhere one day and dinosaurs never existed :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
#39
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 18 said:
Personally I feel it is arrogant of man to think he is destroying the earth.

Anyone that says that man is destroying the Earth is misstating the problem of global warming. Global warming won't destroy the Earth. It will, however, destroy man. Then, once man has been eliminated from the Earth, the Earth's atmosphere will once again get back into a natural balance.

 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 19 said:
Anyone that says that man is destroying the Earth is misstating the problem of global warming. Global warming won't destroy the Earth. It will, however, destroy man. Then, once man has been eliminated from the Earth, the Earth's atmosphere will once again get back into a natural balance.

It's already started if you ask me.
 
#41
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(Vol423 @ Jun 18 said:
Anyone that says that man is destroying the Earth is misstating the problem of global warming. Global warming won't destroy the Earth. It will, however, destroy man. Then, once man has been eliminated from the Earth, the Earth's atmosphere will once again get back into a natural balance.
How will this affect football? Think we will have to play all night games? Put a dome over Neyland? :huh:
Maybe will could get Dusty Baker to give us a lecture about athletic performances in hotter climates. :geek:
 
#42
#42
(Vol423 @ Jun 18 said:
Anyone that says that man is destroying the Earth is misstating the problem of global warming. Global warming won't destroy the Earth. It will, however, destroy man. Then, once man has been eliminated from the Earth, the Earth's atmosphere will once again get back into a natural balance.

So does that mean I don't have to pay off my car?
 
#44
#44
Well, Did Algore write this new book before or after he invented the internet????????

Do not let OWB see this, he will correct you about the quote. Gore just meant he helped in its creation.

But any who, Algore was one of the leaders of the Ice Age movement of the 70's and then he saw that was not going any where he found a new political opportunity to exploit global warming.
 
#45
#45
I still say it's Global Tilting.

We've gotten so fat that the Earth is tilting - the phenomenon was first noticed in Wisconsin but has reared it's ugly head more recently in Alabama!
 
#47
#47
(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 23 said:
Do you have much on global titling, I cannot find too much useful information to form some sort of opinion.


Nope, just joking about an earlier post.
 
#49
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(OrangeEmpire @ Jun 23 said:
Do not let OWB see this, he will correct you about the quote. Gore just meant he helped in its creation.

Oh for the love of God, that's not right either. :banghead:
 
#50
#50
You cannot tease and then not share you findings from your studies!

Is it our combustions engines or cutting down of trees?

Combination of both?



Global Warming is defined as the warming of average global temperature by several degrees per century, considered by numerous scientists to be due to atmospheric pollution and coupled with greenhouse effects, and distorted land use of patterns. A mounting apprehension among scientists, global warming (IPCC,1991;Oskamp 2000;Taylor 1999).The Earth’ temperature fluctuates frequently over millions of years. Several of the fluctuations correspond with ice ages, the most recent one being 11,000 to 12,000 years ago.
Dissimilar from these natural fluctuations, the temperatures we experience change with daylight and night fall with the annual seasons. Ordinarily, a great deal of the suns heat striking the earth reflects back into space. Some of the Earth’s energy is also absorbed at the Earth’s surface through photosynthesis, a process where green plants grow and flourish. A balanced ecological system is when the carbon found in living organisms is constantly recycled, as one living organism becomes food and fertilizer of others. A problem happens when the carbon recycling process becomes disrupted through at least two human-caused interventions. The first problem is removal of biomass as humans cut down forests (where much carbon is stored) to create farmland and pasture (which store less carbon). Afterward we change farmland into parking lots and office buildings (which store very little carbon), and along the way savanna into desert and otherwise inhibit the normal conversion of carbon into plant material (e.g., Kaiser, 1999a).
The second problem occurs when humans burn fossil fuels in enormous quantities, as we have been doing ever since the Industrial Revolution with the burning of coal and natural gas. Such burning releases incredible amounts of carbon dioxide and other “greenhouse gases” into the atmosphere. If these gases are not recycled into biomass through photosynthesis by the vegetation that would normally cover land surface, the gases build up whereby creating a greenhouse effect. Increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere acts like the glass in a greenhouse, trapping more of the suns heat and warming the earth’s surface unusually. Over the past 100 years, we have warmed another 2%, with projected estimates from the increasing greenhouse effect believes the earths surface may warm another 2%-7% by the year 2100, a remarkable warming in a brief period.
Many factors are related to global warming. Aerosols and other air pollutants from industrial processes moderate the warming process by increasing cloud brightness and reflecting more light back into space (Kerr, 1995;Kiehl 1999;Schwatz & Andreae, 1996). Aerosols in the form of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) contribute to the ozone hole (e.g. Kerr, 1992a). Atmospheric ozone absorbs harmful ultraviolet sunlight. It is rapidly depleting over Antarctica and Arctic in a pattern named ozone hole. The greenhouse effect warms our Earth but cools the stratospheric ice clouds, causing skin cancer according to scientist.
Another factor that’s negative from global warming is the deep ocean currents transfer of heat across the sea well as flush the waters of harmful levels of salinity,(Kerr,1998,1999b).Concern is this along with currents contribute to global warming making the ocean inhabitable for algae and other aquatic life. The ocean provides food for humans and other organisms, also absorbs much of the carbon in greenhouse gases.
The Gaia hypothesis says the Earth self-regulates the whole thermal process (e.g.,Lovelock, 1988,1998).The heating and cooling fluctuate naturally as vegetation ,animal life, oceans, and atmosphere release heat and emissions and compensate for normal fluctuations, but humans could cause things to get out of hand.
 

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