Aliens and UFO's- Is the truth out there?

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I heard a scientist speaking one day. He had a really good point. He basically said what if the universe is not infinite in matter? What we have found when researching planets is that maybe a livable planet is a one in a billion chance.

And of that planet: Does the temperature remain stable enough to support life? Is it protected from asteroids by other large planets? Does it have the necessary elements to support life for years?

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After hearing that, I hope there is another form of life in this universe. That being said, that life could be so far away we would never know. Earth is obviously a very rare occurrence in this universe.
 
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jamesthesame said:
I heard a scientist speaking one day. He had a really good point. He basically said what if the universe is not infinite in matter? What we have found when researching planets is that maybe a livable planet is a one in a billion chance.

And of that planet: Does the temperature remain stable enough to support life? Is it protected from asteroids by other large planets? Does it have the necessary elements to support life for years?

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After hearing that, I hope there is another form of life in this universe. That being said, that life could be so far away we would never know. Earth is obviously a very rare occurrence in this universe.
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You would think if there is life elsewhere in the universe, we will eventually find it sometime or another. The earth will live for like another 1-1.4 billion years or so before it dies naturally. Assuming we don't wipe out our own species from war, rape the planet until there is nothing else, or a comet nails us, surely if life is out there, we will find it before our planet dies from natural causes.
 
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ainge10heisman said:
You would think if there is life elsewhere in the universe, we will eventually find it sometime or another. The earth will live for like another 1-1.4 billion years or so before it dies naturally. Assuming we don't wipe out our own species from war, rape the planet until there is nothing else, or a comet nails us, surely if life is out there, we will find it before our planet dies from natural causes.
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It's sad to think that one day will Earth will no longer exist. Not like it matters but it makes me think of Neyland Stadium being swallowed up by the Sun when it turns into a red giant.
 
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ainge10heisman said:
You would think if there is life elsewhere in the universe, we will eventually find it sometime or another. The earth will live for like another 1-1.4 billion years or so before it dies naturally. Assuming we don't wipe out our own species from war, rape the planet until there is nothing else, or a comet nails us, surely if life is out there, we will find it before our planet dies from natural causes.
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I would like to be around if someday we were able to open wormholes by bending space. I feel sorry for the first people who would have to go through them. :)
 
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jamesthesame said:
I would like to be around if someday we were able to open wormholes by bending space. I feel sorry for the first people who would have to go through them. :)
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That would be extremely scary not knowing what would happen or where you would end up, or if you could even get back. There would be plenty of brave astronauts that would probably love to take on the mission though.
 
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malinoisvol said:
Did a little research and answered my own question. Yes.

The Quran, Tamil and Sanskrit, and Sutras, all ancient text, do mention the possibility of extraterrestrial life and "UFO's".

Interesting.
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Also interesting is that, imo, a majority of agnostics and atheists are open minded to the possibility of ET's and UFO's.

I like reading and discussing this subject for the simple fact that, as far as I know, it has not been tainted with political agendas. Even the stories of government coverups and conspiracies, well they only add spice to the conversation.
 
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Wernher Von Braun after coming here following WW2, when asked how he knew all of this stuff about building advanced weapons and crafts, he told them the aliens showed them. Then there's his leader Hitler who was an occultist.

An ex-chief of CIA said he had access to a room of boxes that most people don't and he said a box that said "Roswell" caught his eye. He wouldn't give detail but he said it basically confirmed what he thought and that it happened.

You've had astronauts claim they're real. Former astronaut Dr. Edgard Mithchell holds the record for longest moonwalk. He claims he was debriefed and that they're real.

Charles Hall an author who was in the air force, observed weather balloons, was given an award for surviving 35 attacks in vietnam, has a bachelors in thermal physics and a masters in applied nuclear physics... he claims to have met "tall whites" at a Nevada base out in the desert. Without going into every detail, a lot of his claims on what he saw there have been supported by others who have researched it. He even said they built bases in the mountains to house the tall whites and is off to the public. At the base he said they referred to the tall whites as "big sheep horn". Keep in mind, he made all of these claims before stuff like google earth existed. If you go on google earth, that location looks like how he described it including three white pods and they even title it "big sheep horn habitat". Back when they did a bunch of construction on the base, it was called the indian springs project and the contractor that won the bid for the job got 300 million dollars and had previously done a number of other projects for the government. Today, that 300 million is worth over 2 billion+. Problem with that is, when you look at the base and what is consists of it looks nowhere near that amount of money. On top of that, there were earthquakes taking place in the area during the time of the construction and not seeing the value of the money spent above ground, it could be as Charles Hall said that they had multiple housing areas for the tall whites in the mountains and the earthquakes were the result of drilling.

Charles Hall on actually speaking with the tall whites... he said the tall whites leaders have met with all of the high ranking government officials and would only make deals with the government if they felt they were getting the better end of the deal. The one thing they wouldn't teach us is how they travel. The tall whites told him that other types of aliens exist but earth is the only planet with intelligent people like us who are so close to animals. Riding them, eating them, having them as pets. When life becomes intelligent on other planets, they come to the conclusion that animals are stupid and kill them. They also said we'll eat anything including animals while intelligent life on other planets will only eat plants. They were also surprised by how well we bounce back from injuries and all of the stuff we can do physically as they're frail. Apparently they'll put themselves first at any cost because their numbers are dwindling.



Those are just some things I've read about recently. Whether it's true, who knows. Some of the people I mentioned you might find more credible than others. WVB's comment sure is something. I recall reading years ago about Mayan's learning everything from aliens as well which also made them advanced for their time. So the WVB comment I find really interesting. Obviously a former CIA chief and an astronaut with a PHD is nothing to scoff at. As for Hall's story, I just find it interesting even if he isn't as credible as the others list. He originally released the book as fiction but later on said it's real with only names and minor details being changed. Again, what makes his story interesting aside from actually claiming to speak with aliens, he does have a couple of degrees that are out of my wheelhouse and his claims all came before you could use google earth. The way he described everything checked out.

At the end of the day, I do think aliens are probably real(or demons acting as aliens if demons happened to be real) as there is too much info and what appear to be coverups. The problem is, you never know what stories are legit and which are made up. All you can do is hope you find someone with solid credentials and isn't using their credentials in attempt to profit off making bogus claims. There is some pretty damming stuff out there. Look at all the football heads scribbled on walls of pyramids. They can draw every detail as a person appears but failing to draw a circle instead of an an oblong oval/bean shape is where the artistic ability ends?

Whether aliens are real, at least I found it interesting and the possibility for now still exists.
 
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ainge10heisman said:
You would think if there is life elsewhere in the universe, we will eventually find it sometime or another. The earth will live for like another 1-1.4 billion years or so before it dies naturally. Assuming we don't wipe out our own species from war, rape the planet until there is nothing else, or a comet nails us, surely if life is out there, we will find it before our planet dies from natural causes.
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Asteroid 1999 FN53: NASA say colossal space rock to skim past Earth on May 14 | Nature | News | Daily Express
 
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jamesthesame said:
I heard a scientist speaking one day. He had a really good point. He basically said what if the universe is not infinite in matter? What we have found when researching planets is that maybe a livable planet is a one in a billion chance.

And of that planet: Does the temperature remain stable enough to support life? Is it protected from asteroids by other large planets? Does it have the necessary elements to support life for years?

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After hearing that, I hope there is another form of life in this universe. That being said, that life could be so far away we would never know. Earth is obviously a very rare occurrence in this universe.
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It also is assuming what is "livable".

It's a baseless assumption.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Decent possibility.
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I've often thought this.

I've often read that the reason the government covers up the alien encounters is because if we as the people knew of it, it would destroy religion. Also causing chaos. Some speculate religion (as a whole) was used as a control measure years ago.
 
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Obsessed said:
I've often thought this.

I've often read that the reason the government covers up the alien encounters is because if we as the people knew of it, it would destroy religion. Also causing chaos. Some speculate religion (as a whole) was used as a control measure years ago.
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I consider my self a person of faith and the fact of other creations/creatures on other planets does NOT affect this at all.

If we believe that God created everything... thing it is evident that he must of created them to.... "Other sheep I have which are not of this fold" ... quote from Jesus seems to sum this u.

If God did create everything it it impossible for me to see why he would have created this vast universe and not created other beings to enjoy it.. JMHO
 
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Coastypop said:
I consider my self a person of faith and the fact of other creations/creatures on other planets does NOT affect this at all.

If we believe that God created everything... thing it is evident that he must of created them to.... "Other sheep I have which are not of this fold" ... quote from Jesus seems to sum this u.

If God did create everything it it impossible for me to see why he would have created this vast universe and not created other beings to enjoy it.. JMHO
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Oh I agree whole heartedly. I wasn't trying to imply other wise. I just was passing along info from various places I have read
 
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Burhead said:
There is one due to pass us on July 7th that will come within about 1.1 LD. The one Thursday doesn't even bother men. Neither does the one in July either to be honest.
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I know.

My problem is we only got a 2-3 days notice. And that is still a big ass piece or rock/iron. It could cause a ELE.....
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I'm sorry but if the Kremlin wants the world to know aliens exist, why is that contengent on the US to be the one to admit it? Why don't Russia just come out and say it in the first place? This wreaks of horse**** to me.
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Mexico made the same announcement a while back as well.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I'm sorry but if the Kremlin wants the world to know aliens exist, why is that contengent on the US to be the one to admit it? Why don't Russia just come out and say it in the first place? This wreaks of horse**** to me.
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I thought the same thing.
 
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Obsessed said:
I've often thought this.

I've often read that the reason the government covers up the alien encounters is because if we as the people knew of it, it would destroy religion. Also causing chaos. Some speculate religion (as a whole) was used as a control measure years ago.
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It would depend I guess; if we have had obviously intelligent life come here and make contact and they have no concept of God or at the least no concept that is close to ours, I can see that being rather damaging to our concepts of religion.

i think the chaos would be the fear of what the other life would/could do. Years of sci-fi tells us there's a 90% chance they want to kill us and/or enslave us.
 
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