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[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I believe Heupel called the plays he did because we HAD to score some points and he felt like our WRs could just bully their way down the field. And they did.

Again, believe as you wish, but Heupel didn't abandon his gameplan against possibly the weakest opponent we'll play this year just so we could "survive" Austin Peay.

It's just silly to suggest he was worried we'd lose if he didn't "screen left, screen right, run right, run left" most of the game. Even the running plays were unimaginative, simple, literally straightforward runs. It was nothing like us even if you disregard the passing game.

Why was the run game dull too if it's all about Milton?
Why was the tempo even slowed down?

 

[Vol8188]

Again, believe as you wish, but Heupel didn't abandon his gameplan against possibly the weakest opponent we'll play this year just so we could "survive" Austin Peay.

It's just silly to suggest he was worried we'd lose if he didn't "screen left, screen right, run right, run left" most of the game. Even the running plays were unimaginative, simple, literally straightforward runs. It was nothing like us even if you disregard the passing game.

Why was the run game dull too if it's all about Milton?
Why was the tempo even slowed down?

Based on this response, I’m not convinced you’ve ever watched a down of UT football under CJH.

Yes, our offense (especially our running game) is very simple/straightforward.

The defense played a lot of drop 8. Against that defense quick screens, draws, and simple inside runs are very effective.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Based on this response, I’m not convinced you’ve ever watched a down of UT football under CJH.

Yes, our offense (especially our running game) is very simple/straightforward.

The defense played a lot of drop 8. Against that defense quick screens, draws, and simple inside runs are very effective.

I get that but we've seen drop 8 before and also used a number of motion/power sweeps also. If we saw those, I missed them. Almost none of the things Heupel normally does to break drop 8 was used....... except a ton of WR screens.

There was zero attempt at short passes (after a couple of series) to draw the defense shorter. There was less QB draws than I would've run to break the deep coverage.

It's not like Heupel to just "turtle" the team for the rest of the game because they're in drop 8, is it,?

 

[Vol8188]

I get that but we've seen drop 8 before and also used a number of motion/power sweeps also. If we saw those, I missed them. Almost none of the things Heupel normally does to break drop 8 was used....... except a ton of WR screens.

There was zero attempt at short passes (after a couple of series) to draw the defense shorter. There was less QB draws than I would've run to break the deep coverage.

It's not like Heupel to just "turtle" the team for the rest of the game because they're in drop 8, is it,?

How much shorter of a pass to “draw the defense forward” than a WR screen could you ask for?

We have two scholarship QBs. How many QB draws would you want to run to “break the deep coverage”. Especially when your RBs are averaging 7 ypc. If they want to play quarters all night while you run for over 200 yards, I’m not seeing the problem.

 

[Vol8188]

I get that but we've seen drop 8 before and also used a number of motion/power sweeps also. If we saw those, I missed them. Almost none of the things Heupel normally does to break drop 8 was used....... except a ton of WR screens.

There was zero attempt at short passes (after a couple of series) to draw the defense shorter. There was less QB draws than I would've run to break the deep coverage.

It's not like Heupel to just "turtle" the team for the rest of the game because they're in drop 8, is it,?

How much shorter of a pass to “draw the defense forward” than a WR screen could you ask for?

We have two scholarship QBs. How many QB draws would you want to run to “break the deep coverage”. Especially when your RBs are averaging 7 ypc. If they want to play quarters all night while you run for over 200 yards, I’m not seeing the problem. And there’s no way I’d have more than a couple of designed QB runs against arguably the worst team on our schedule when I only have one other scholarship QB

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

How much shorter of a pass to “draw the defense forward” than a WR screen could you ask for?

We have two scholarship QBs. How many QB draws would you want to run to “break the deep coverage”. Especially when your RBs are averaging 7 ypc. If they want to play quarters all night while you run for over 200 yards, I’m not seeing the problem.

Even after we got a comfortable lead, Heupel never ran our real tempo offense, never started throwing down field consistently, etc.

Sure, the running game was going to easily beat Austin Peay and that's my contention in this, Heupel didn't "resort" to this strategy, he had this as his gameplan from the start.

This insistence that "Milton made Heupel have to call these plays" is not the answer. Heupel kind of "let the team have the night off" playing lots of second string defensive guys and getting all he needed from the blandest gameplan I hope we ever see.

 

[Tman44]

Is there anywhere to view the replay on the all 22 view-the whole field?
It's interesting to see the entire field, reads, and coverages for the game in that view. Let's you see the game within the game.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I went on a pretty deep dive looking for the all 22 film. What I found is all 22 film of college games is incredibly difficult to obtain. Perhaps you may want to start sending steaks via door dash over to the UT film room and see if that gets you anywhere. Here is a good article I found that explains college all 22 film rarity.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/09/14/college-football-game-film-all-22/

 

[Sara Clark]

Based on a friend that was at the game and his observations, we just weren't running deep routes. Joe wasn't missing open guys down the field. He was making the right reads based on the plays that were called.

I'm hoping we were intentionally working on certain things that will pay dividends in Gainesville. At this point, this is what I'm choosing to hope.

This is Heupel's quote: Heupel said receivers “over the middle of the football field were wide open, but we didn’t execute.” He said Milton missed a couple of passes and receivers dropped others. Plus, a deep pass would’ve been open, but pass protection broke down.

 

[VAVol85]

I recall one time we were gonna throw it deep but Ollie Lane totally whiffed on a block and got Joe sacked

I believe Davis was taking reps at center at the time but could be wrong. In any event, it was the only sack.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Again, believe as you wish, but Heupel didn't abandon his gameplan against possibly the weakest opponent we'll play this year just so we could "survive" Austin Peay.

It's just silly to suggest he was worried we'd lose if he didn't "screen left, screen right, run right, run left" most of the game. Even the running plays were unimaginative, simple, literally straightforward runs. It was nothing like us even if you disregard the passing game.

Why was the run game dull too if it's all about Milton?
Why was the tempo even slowed down?

I hope I'm wrong. We will find out Saturday.

 

[Rememberthelate90s]

Pass protection wasn’t great and APSU played 2 deep most of the game. That’s why UT rushed for 228 yards and all the underneath stuff was open.

If it's that easy everyone would do it.

 

[JRich]

If it's that easy everyone would do it.

No kidding. Many on here are video game offensive coordinators.

“Five verticals and let it rip.”

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

I thought it was the center. Regardless who it was pass protection was not very good. Neither was joe or the receivers.

Dayne Davis was in at center on that play. Number 66.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

Florida will have this Defensive gameplan.
1. Don't get beat deep.
2. Make Milton beat you. (Aka hault the run game).

Offensive gameplan.
1. Establish the run game and use the rpo to your advantage.
3. Let mertz run.
4. Attack Hadden.

Just a guess.

1. The first two are opposing goals.

2. Hard to establish the run game when your offensive line is a wet paper bag.

3. Mertz will get killed.

4. Attacking Hadden could get you a favorable
PI or a pick.