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#7,826
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm not a "stock hound" but I'm retired, have a decent, but managed, portfolio and some "play money" if I wish. I usually don't wish.

My concern with this "short squeeze" phenomena is not these rogue and mostly "herd following" Reddit folks but the possibility this is a blueprint for far more savvy and sinister and better capitalized players to disrupt worldwide markets.

I'm not a fan of heavy market regulation but I believe stable markets are vital to the US and the world for currency stability and social stability.

Do those of you with far better knowledge of this area think the possibility of a concerted disruption of worldwide market practices by the Chinese or Middle Eastern interests is a threat? Thanks.
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If a bunch of rubes on reddit (including myself) can cause this 'disruption', it's always been possible. What I'd ask instead is- have there already been disruptions caused?

I'm not versed in stocks or financial markets, but my job is to know very well foundational economics, business, and to an extent global affairs. It's also to know how to start looking below the surface at things. Here are things I am considering, and my thoughts on them are why I am A-OK with this 'disruption' happening. These are a little disorganized and maybe repetitive but I want to word vomit a bit.

1) shorts- think about them. It's when a fund borrows shares, sells them, then pays back the shares at a later date to whoever they borrowed them from. They have a direct incentive to reduce the share price in the interim period so they can pay back the shares while keeping more money. Look at companies that keep getting shorted- it doesn't matter if they have good ideas, it doesn't matter so much if us regular people are excited about them and want to invest in them on those ideas; their stock success will be directly influenced by people that have a vested interest in their share price not improving. If you don't think these hedge funds do what they can to send market signals to drive prices down, I've got news for you. That's not a free market.
2) you'll be told that these shorts are a 'protection' to keep us normal doofuses from bankrupting ourselves on the market. I'm very much hands-off- let us do what we want, that's a free market. There is risk in a free market! I don't care much for this line of thought.
3) we're watching a situation where obviously GameStop isn't worth $300-400/share. The reality is totally disconnected from the stock market, and that's just been proven beyond a doubt for everyone. I think that shows the extent to which manipulation can occur and probably does occur.
4) ask yourself the backgrounds of these firms influencing the market. We've got a certain small group, often linked in...certain ways... that are the loudest about this being an issue. They have had the power to set the attitudes around companies listed on the market for forever. Is it any different if this group manipulates it compared to Russians, or Middle Easterners, or Chinese? And do you really think those last groups aren't already in on the game?
5) the only reason this is making noise is because a bunch of regular people are exposing the shitshow. There's no other reason. People doing illegal things and intentionally damaging hard working people and long-term believers/investors in the companies they short are getting hammered. I don't give a flying rip about a crying billionaire on TV. I care about the people working to turn the company around, and appreciate that they're going to be getting more power back.
 
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#7,827
orange parmejohn said:
Any idea what is causing it?
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Others in here will be able to explain better. But basically a lot of shorts are getting squeezed right now, so they are trying to sell off to keep prices low. While bulls are trying to drive the price up on them. Add in a new admin in the WH and stuff will rise and fall because of regulations they put in place.
 
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#7,830
mr.checkerboards said:
Others in here will be able to explain better. But basically a lot of shorts are getting squeezed right now, so they are trying to sell off to keep prices low. While bulls are trying to drive the price up on them. Add in a new admin in the WH and stuff will rise and fall because of regulations they put in place.
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The people that have to pay back the shorts (including the firm that mostly owns RH) stand to lose, so they want to do all they can- and indeed they are doing all they can- to create panic sell-offs so they don't lose anything.
 
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Carp said:
This whole Wallstreetbetz ordeal I'm sure is part of it in someway. Investors could be spooked that new legislation might get passed this weekend to prevent what happened this week.
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We'll be closer to a new civil war than we have been in 150 years if that happens, especially if it happens before a new stimulus check.
 
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#7,835
Haven’t even looked at my account today. It’s getting crushed. MM lost on the short squeezes, but they are making it up everywhere else that they can.
 
#7,840
#7,840
I posted this in the other thread, but it may work here as well.

I keep seeing references to the Reddit crew being the little guys. That being an anonymous forum, isn't it entirely possible that big and/or foreign money/influence is behind this. I'm typically not conspiratorial by nature, but it would be something if the real puppet master behind wall street bets is a rival hedge fund or foreign actor.
 
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#7,841
mr.checkerboards said:
Thats the consensus I've gotten. But AMC and Naked recovering some have me concerned. Here come spour however though.
I wish seafood towers for all today
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Why are you concerned about AMC's recovery? I bought a few shares this morning. Should I get rid of em? It was just a pipe dream that I might catch the 2nd round of lightning in a bottle.
 
#7,842
#7,842
orange parmejohn said:
Why are you concerned about AMC's recovery? I bought a few shares this morning. Should I get rid of em? It was just a pipe dream that I might catch the 2nd round of lightning in a bottle.
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Im staying in but you do whatever you feel like makes the most sense with you.
My concern is that it won't recover, I don't have anything that tells me it will, I don't have anything that tells me it won't. Its a yolo play and im along for the ride.
 
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#7,846
#7,846
$NOK gamble hasn't panned out, but I will swing till Monday and she what she holds for me.

Also started a small position in $NXTD as a crypto play.
 
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#7,847
TheColdVolTruth said:
I posted this in the other thread, but it may work here as well.

I keep seeing references to the Reddit crew being the little guys. That being an anonymous forum, isn't it entirely possible that big and/or foreign money/influence is behind this. I'm typically not conspiratorial by nature, but it would be something if the real puppet master behind wall street bets is a rival hedge fund or foreign actor.
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I'm not overly conspiratorial either but I'm concerned this kind of activity reveals exploits for more sophisticated "bad actors."

Frankly, by now the NSA knows a lot about the big players in the Reddit sub and has an idea who is pushing RobinHood trades/holds. If they don't, they're not looking out for American interests.

Will groups like the NSA and SEC be "weaponized" against common Americans making life hell for hedge funds? I hope not. Would they be used to stop a major domestic or foreign player from destabilizing the market? I hope so.

It's a weird time to trust the govt but they have the resources (sadly, perhaps, but that's another discussion) to sort out what's behind this. Fingers crossed that they have America's best interest at heart.
 
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TheColdVolTruth said:
I posted this in the other thread, but it may work here as well.

I keep seeing references to the Reddit crew being the little guys. That being an anonymous forum, isn't it entirely possible that big and/or foreign money/influence is behind this. I'm typically not conspiratorial by nature, but it would be something if the real puppet master behind wall street bets is a rival hedge fund or foreign actor.
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It seems that way to me. Maybe just someone or a group in the Biz that realized things are out of whack when you have way to many shorts. Then decided profit using the guys in Reddit. A few people could own a large part of the shares that have risen significantly. They could be selling all day and making a huge profit, and many of the Reddit people seem more interested in principle than profit vowing to never sell.huh. They are are using retail brokers, but they are no investing. Otoh, there is nothing wrong with gambling unless it becomes a problem.
Obviously, as a going concern GME is worth closer to $5 than $200.
 
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#7,849
#7,849
I’m afraid the market won’t be the same again for awhile. I’ve had quite a few friends message me asking what to buy that will mimic what GME and AMC did. A lot of new investors are going to learn some hard lessons.
 
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#7,850
#7,850
Russdaddy2027 said:
Short Version:
if you are sitting on AMC or GME.....HOLD THE LINE!!!!

IF you aren't then buy some if you can now!!!
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Worked at Waterloo, not so well at Little Bighorn.

So, as a bumpkin who's only got an insignificant amount in this game, what's the benefit of holding longer? At what point does the upward trajectory make like the Challenger?
 
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