ALS ice bucket challenge

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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Some are doing it for attention, some are doing it for fun. My 70 year old neighbor did it and she isn't an attention whore
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Want to dump a bucket of ice water over your head, be my guest. Of course I don't post photos/videos of myself online anyway.
 
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govols/cc said:
Yes. I've saw guys use bucket loaders to do it & everything in between. Not sure if a hoax or not but a girl had about a 20 gallon bucket full of ice & water dropped on her head from about 10 ft & apparently she died. Apparently too heavy for the one weak guy to lift & it slipped.
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One of our local meteorologists used this.
 
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govols/cc said:
Yes. I've saw guys use bucket loaders to do it
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Your mileage may vary

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n_huffhines said:
Because it gets people involved. What other charitable organization has been able to get a viral donation scheme going?
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I think it's a great thing that's going on and I agree it's bringing awareness to ALS. Truthfully though there are far more diseases that affect far more people than ALS that I'd rather see donations flying towards: Cancer, Alzheimers

vader said:
Your mileage may vary

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That seriously could have killed that guy. The operator is an idiot.
 
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Here's Mike Rowe's take on it:

Hi All,

Since yesterday was apparently National Dog Day, (seriously?) and since my second-to-the-last post triggered a variety of observations around my apparent failure to “rise to challenge,” as it were, I’m weighing in with another image of young Freddy, who like his master, has decided to forego The ALS/Ice Bucket Challenge.

I mean no disrespect to the 500 or so individuals who have publicly challenged me to participate. And God knows, I’m in near constant need of a cold shower. But as a guy who has represented some rather large, profitable companies while running a non-profit foundation, I’ve got some opinions on the subject of persuasion, especially as it applies to fundraising. And I’ve been struggling with how to share those thoughts in a way that will not make me look like a douche-bag.

First of all, I tip my hat to the marketing genius that conceived of this device. Thanks to The Ice Bucket Challenge, The ALS Association has collected $75 million dollars in donations. That’s up from just $1.9 million over all of last year, for a 3,650% increase. That’s amazing, and totally unprecedented. And if we lived in a world of unlimited philanthropic resources, it would be fantastic news. But we don’t live in that world. We live in a world where generous people of finite means must allocate their charitable giving with discretion - in the same way they allocate all other expenditures. In this world, more money for ALS means less money for Heart Disease. More for Malaria means less for Diabetes. More for AIDS means less for Alzheimer’s. And so forth.

It’s not exactly a zero sum game, but the cannibalism factor in charitable giving is a very serious problem. According to the experts, 50% to 70% of all the money collected as a result of the Ice Bucket Challenge will directly impact future contributions to other charities in an equal and opposite way. In other words, if The ALS Association collects a $100 million - as it’s on track to do - other charities competing for the same dollars will collect between $50 and $70 million LESS. Thus, the largest donations do not necessarily go to those charities that serve the most people or do the best research - they go to those that who market themselves in the most effective way.

This informs the way I give, and the way I solicit. It’s one thing to sell cars or trucks or jeans or paper towels. God knows, I've been there, and I'm comfortable with the consequences of pushing one brand at the expense of another. But in the non-profit world, the stakes are bit higher. I’m reluctant to participate in a challenge that’s raising so much money for a small association, especially when it impacts other research that will eventually save the lives of millions. That's the cold and ****ty calculus of charitable giving.

Of course - I understand those who see it differently. If my Dad or my brother was among the 6,000 diagnosed with ALS every year, I’d be standing under a shower of freezing water, waving my checkbook in the air and challenging the world to get on board. I remember when my Mom was diagnosed with breast cancer - I would have done anything to fix it. In fact, I took off my pants and challenged the world to donate the cost of their favorite pair of jeans to help find a cure. I get it.

But here’s the thing - if you decide to give charitably, it’s important to understand everything you can about the way your money is going to be spent. That’s not happening here. The spectacular success of the Ice Bucket Challenge is not the result of a conscious, collective commitment to rise up against a terrible scourge; it’s the result of a marketing campaign. Consequently, a foundation accustomed to working for decades on a million dollars or so in annual donations, will now have to manage a $75 million jackpot. That worries me, as it should anyone who has ever studied the fate of lottery winners. That’s not their fault, but it doesn’t change the situation, and I’m not inclined to challenge more people to send more money to coffers that are already overflowing.

Some of you will remember a recent post about my friend, Jill Brown. Jill is a stuntwoman who got a brain tumor and lived to tell the tale. Coping With A Brain Tumor - Mindfulness Strategies Last year, she asked me to sponsor her in a walk to raise money for brain tumor research. She didn’t like asking, and I don’t blame her. Asking people for money is never fun. Even for a good cause. But Jill was very grateful for a second chance at life, and determined to support those suffering from the same condition that she overcame. So she personally called everyone she knew and explained why she walking, how the money that she raised would be used, and why the research was so important. Consequently, she raised a tidy sum for a great cause that was near and dear to her.

Point is, Jill did several difficult things. She vowed to walk, at a time when walking wasn’t so easy. She committed her time, her energy, and her passion to a cause that mattered deeply to her. And most importantly, she made the whole thing personal. That made me want to help her. Not just because she's my friend - but because she was helping herself.

The Ice Bucket Challenge is different. Here, people I’ve never met give me 24 hours to either write a check to a charity I’m not familiar with, or dump a bucket of cold water over my head. Tell me honestly - if that precise challenge arrived to you privately, via the US Mail, what would you do with it? You’d throw it in the trash, right? But a public challenge is not so easy to ignore. Online, everyone is watching. Your friends. Your co-workers. Your clients. Maybe even your boss.

When it comes to asking people for help, I don’t like to put them in an awkward position. So the only challenge I’m issuing today is to Freddy. If he can refrain from peeing on the floor, I’ll send a check to the local shelter. Beyond that, I'm staying dry.

Again - to anyone who’s been affected directly or indirectly by ALS, my heart goes out to you. And to those who challenged me personally, I know your heart’s in the right place. So I’m going to reserve the right to dump various substances over my head at a future date for whatever reason I deem appropriate, and encourage you all to ignore the gimmicks, get informed about the charities you wish to support, and contribute generously to whatever cause resonates with you.

Mike
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coug said:
I think it's a great thing that's going on and I agree it's bringing awareness to ALS. Truthfully though there are far more diseases that affect far more people than ALS that I'd rather see donations flying towards: Cancer, Alzheimers
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I know what you're saying, but what I do appreciate about this is that ALS doesn't get much money. Cancer and Alzheimers get a ton of money (and they should).

I want genetic engineering and the more awareness about ALS, the more open people will be to allowing scientists and doctors to "play God" (and maybe they'll even be convinced to the point that they support it). That's how I think we get rid of ALS and a ton of other genetic diseases. So for me, raising awareness about ALS is much bigger than just ALS.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I know what you're saying, but what I do appreciate about this is that ALS doesn't get much money. Cancer and Alzheimers get a ton of money (and they should).

I want genetic engineering and the more awareness about ALS, the more open people will be to allowing scientists and doctors to "play God" (and maybe they'll even be convinced to the point that they support it). That's how I think we get rid of ALS and a ton of other genetic diseases. So for me, raising awareness about ALS is much bigger than just ALS.
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They already do this. It's better than donating to a bunch of rackets that don't do anything about it. Genetic engineering has existed since the Human Genome Project ended awhile back. We're also in a country where more than >50% of people are "religious". You can actually go to England, and do what you're talking about.
 
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volfanbill said:
You are a fabulous troll.
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Thank you, but Charities are just a paycheck to most of them.
Those donate to Africa charities only pass on 20% to the people. When the whole Haiti thing happened, none of the money made it to the people. The leader put it all in his bank account. Charity is the best scam next to religion, taxes, and college textbooks.
 
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Burger said:
They already do this. It's better than donating to a bunch of rackets that don't do anything about it. Genetic engineering has existed since the Human Genome Project ended awhile back. We're also in a country where more than <50% of people are "religious". You can actually go to England, and do what you're talking about.
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It's that easy!
 
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Yeah boi cross generational twofer challenge!
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I've pissed so many people off over this.

Its amazing the gullibility of people.

If you're going to donate, do so without boasting about it in a small call out video

I donate to one charity and that's St. Jude. They get everything I can spare.

I however, will not donate to an organization that 73% of money raised goes to salaries and fundraising

Where the top 5 employees make over $1,000,000 a year combined
 
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CountVolcula said:
I've pissed so many people off over this.

Its amazing the gullibility of people.

If you're going to donate, do so without boasting about it in a small call out video

I donate to one charity and that's St. Jude. They get everything I can spare.

I however, will not donate to an organization that 73% of money raised goes to salaries and fundraising

Where the top 5 employees make over $1,000,000 a year combined
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Good post. This is how I feel too.
 
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