Am I Alone On This?

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Vercingetorix, thats an extreme view. But I guess its fair to say I'm somewhere between a hardcore basketball fan and your version. And I think that many fans will realize they're in the same boat in a few years...
 
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zknott03 said:
Vercingetorix, thats an extreme view. But I guess its fair to say I'm somewhere between a hardcore basketball fan and your version. And I think that many fans will realize they're in the same boat in a few years...
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If that's too extreme a way to put it, then what's the difference between how you feel about football (where you don't care about style, but only winning) and basketball (where you care as much about style as you do winning)? Is it not simply that you care a lot more about football than you do basketball? I'm not trying to be an ass; I just think that's what it boils down to. If you cared about the results in basketball nearly as much as you do in football, you wouldn't care about showmanship at all. You'd care about the results. I would take Stephen Hawking as our coach in a heartbeat if he could beat Kentucky regularly.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Basically what you're saying is that you don't care about basketball that much and so you need an entertaining coach to spice it up, regardless of whether he's that good or not.
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While the rest of us would like one that wins and can at least toe the line of NCAA compliance without screwing up.
 
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IMO most good coaches have a little bit of panache to them, to the point where at least people have opinions one way or the other. It's good, and in college hoops can get the ears of some good recruits.

But a dull personality doesn't necessarily preclude winning.
 
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milohimself said:
IMO most good coaches have a little bit of panache to them, to the point where at least people have opinions one way or the other. It's good, and in college hoops can get the ears of some good recruits.

But a dull personality doesn't necessarily preclude winning.
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Coach K, Izzo, Roy Williams... all boring

Bob Knight... he only won 1 nat'l title and was very eccentric. Take out the physical violence and he would be my ideal coach for basketball. We don't think Pearl would eventually get 1 title?
 
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tvolsfan said:
I'm not sure I really buy all the talk about how the last few days prove many UT fans would rather see exciting basketball than actually win games. I just think it's all fear of what will happen in the future.
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How about both while we are throwing out opinions, and who knows what the future will bring?
While this fiasco is exciting, we're not winning anything?
GO VOLS!
 
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Play by the rules, coach by the rules, recruit by the rules, administer by the rules - then win. I repeat - win. Style over substance sucks.
 
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zknott03 said:
WARNING: This will be a rambling thought.
In football, I want a coach that will win. I don't care if he's got a dull personality or isn't media savvy (not saying Dooley is either). I want him to win football games at (nearly) all cost.
But basketball is different for me. I love winning and I take great pride in our restored program. But if you give me the option of a coach like Bruce (eccentric, fun, not great at coaching players up) or a coach that is brackground noise (but who can coach up players and give us a better chance at Final Fours). I would choose Bruce every day of the week.
I'm assuming Bruce doesn't put us in a probation that regresses us back in the Buzz days. I'd take the entertainment and outside chance at a title run over a "stable" coach that gives us Kentucky-ish consistency.
Am I alone on this?
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So my options are having an essentric coach vs a coach that will put us in the likes of Kentucky....as much as I loved Bruce as our coach, I'd rather be winning and reaching Final Fours.
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zknott03 said:
WARNING: This will be a rambling thought.
In football, I want a coach that will win. I don't care if he's got a dull personality or isn't media savvy (not saying Dooley is either). I want him to win football games at (nearly) all cost.
But basketball is different for me. I love winning and I take great pride in our restored program. But if you give me the option of a coach like Bruce (eccentric, fun, not great at coaching players up) or a coach that is brackground noise (but who can coach up players and give us a better chance at Final Fours). I would choose Bruce every day of the week.
I'm assuming Bruce doesn't put us in a probation that regresses us back in the Buzz days. I'd take the entertainment and outside chance at a title run over a "stable" coach that gives us Kentucky-ish consistency.
Am I alone on this?
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Nope, I agree with you, you are not alone. I don't ever see us as the Ky, North Carolina, Duke elites in men's basketball but Bruce and his teams made men's basketball at UT fun. You never knew who he was going to upset, or when, but he won games we usually had no chance with and that's what makes BB exciting--the underdog spicing things up. Besides that he was a fan favorite and became a part of the fanbase doing tremendous things for the community and rallied the fanbase with his painted chest antics. Whoever is next will be B-O-R-I-N-G; snooze time, lucky to hit .500, back to the days of obscurity. It's not JUST about winning. Now, football, that's different!
 
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There is no reason that we can't become a top ten program with the right coach.

And I agree, those that loved Pearl unconditionally are football fans looking for something to do during the winter. The rest of us know that there are countless forms of exciting basketball.

Just like the spread offense isn't the only "fun" offense to watch in football.
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RollerVol said:
How about both while we are throwing out opinions, and who knows what the future will bring?
While this fiasco is exciting, we're not winning anything?
GO VOLS!
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The prospect of hiring a new coach is always exciting, IMO. But I'd rather have a new, good coach than just guess who the coach will be.
 
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zknott03 said:
Coach K, Izzo, Roy Williams... all boring

Bob Knight... he only won 1 nat'l title and was very eccentric. Take out the physical violence and he would be my ideal coach for basketball. We don't think Pearl would eventually get 1 title?
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Um, no he didn't. He won 3.
 
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zknott03 said:
WARNING: This will be a rambling thought.
In football, I want a coach that will win. I don't care if he's got a dull personality or isn't media savvy (not saying Dooley is either). I want him to win football games at (nearly) all cost.
But basketball is different for me. I love winning and I take great pride in our restored program. But if you give me the option of a coach like Bruce (eccentric, fun, not great at coaching players up) or a coach that is brackground noise (but who can coach up players and give us a better chance at Final Fours). I would choose Bruce every day of the week.
I'm assuming Bruce doesn't put us in a probation that regresses us back in the Buzz days. I'd take the entertainment and outside chance at a title run over a "stable" coach that gives us Kentucky-ish consistency.
Am I alone on this?
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Are you trying to say Pearl was exciting, but didn't win? He was one of the best coaches we have ever had. This is truly a sad time for UT. The man did a hell of a job and loved everything about UT. The pressure is constantly on these coaches to win, and he gave in to pressure. He made one mistake and then we just tossed him to the side. It’s sad. I really doubt that we will get a better coach, and I am afraid our program will be down for years.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Are you trying to say Pearl was exciting, but didn't win? He was one of the best coaches we have ever had. This is truly a sad time for UT. The man did a hell of a job and loved everything about UT. The pressure is constantly on these coaches to win, and he gave in to pressure. He made one mistake and then we just tossed him to the side. It’s sad. I really doubt that we will get a better coach, and I am afraid our program will be down for years.
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Haven't read too much about it, have you?
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Vol8188 said:
Are you trying to say Pearl was exciting, but didn't win? He was one of the best coaches we have ever had. This is truly a sad time for UT. The man did a hell of a job and loved everything about UT. The pressure is constantly on these coaches to win, and he gave in to pressure. He made one mistake and then we just tossed him to the side. It’s sad. I really doubt that we will get a better coach, and I am afraid our program will be down for years.
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I'm not implying he didn't win. I was trying to say I'd rather have him as coach than a boring, "better" coach who could land us more Elite 8s and a possible Final 4. I love Bruce Pearl and I can't see UT Basketball being the same. Only time will tell.

And I do stand corrected on the Bob Knight stat, I misread an article saying he only won 1 NCAA Championship "in my lifetime". The point still stands, I'd rather have had Bob Knight (minus the physical violence) than any other coach in the country.
 
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