America Founded in 1619

[FallCreekVols]

Hope nobody still tries to claim objective journalism exists at the NYT.

The New York Times surrenders to the left on race

 

[McDad]

Hope nobody still tries to claim objective journalism exists at the NYT.

The New York Times surrenders to the left on race

The NYT times hired an open racist to their editorial board last year or the year before. This shift in their "journalism" is expected.

 

[MG1968]

What's hilarious is the one author trying to claim that traffic congestion in Atlanta is because of slavery.

 

[FallCreekVols]

I read that they intend to take this show on the road and visit public schools to indoctrinate today’s kids deeper into victimhood and hatred for America.

 

[evillawyer]

Now, now boys. I thought the whole "keep the Confederate monuments up" movement was about not denying our history. Are you now saying we should not learn about this aspect of our history?

 

[MG1968]

Now, now boys. I thought the whole "keep the Confederate monuments up" movement was about not denying our history. Are you now saying we should not learn about this aspect of our history?

who here is denying that slavery existed before, during and after the founding of America?

 

[NorthDallas40]

LMFAO!!

 

[Orangeburst]

The slave trading African continent has and is such a beacon of exceptionalism.


"Why 1619? Because that's when the first ship carrying African slaves arrived on American shores, and the Times intends to place "the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of the story we tell ourselves about who we are as a country." This reframing is necessary because out of slavery "grew nearly everything that has truly made America exceptional."

 

[McDad]

I read that they intend to take this show on the road and visit public schools to indoctrinate today’s kids deeper into victimhood and hatred for America.

You as the parent have far more influence on your kids than any teacher or school.

 

[tennvols77]

What a joke, and the reason for it an even bigger one.

Founded, and established, 1776.

 

[Orangeburst]

The American Indians had slaves and even had black slaves that were force marched on the Trail of Tears. Better start tearing down those John Ross and American Indian tributes.

"What you probably don’t picture are Cherokee slaveholders, foremost among them Cherokee chief John Ross. What you probably don’t picture are the numerous African-American slaves, Cherokee-owned, who made the brutal march themselves, or else were shipped en masse to what is now Oklahoma aboard cramped boats by their wealthy Indian masters."

How Native American Slaveholders Complicate the Trail of Tears Narrative | At the Smithsonian | Smithsonian

 

[FLVOL_79]

What's hilarious is the one author trying to claim that traffic congestion in Atlanta is because of slavery.

Crime is because of it.

 

[n_huffhines]

The American Indians had slaves and even had black slaves that were force marched on the Trail of Tears. Better start tearing down those John Ross and American Indian tributes.

"What you probably don’t picture are Cherokee slaveholders, foremost among them Cherokee chief John Ross. What you probably don’t picture are the numerous African-American slaves, Cherokee-owned, who made the brutal march themselves, or else were shipped en masse to what is now Oklahoma aboard cramped boats by their wealthy Indian masters."

How Native American Slaveholders Complicate the Trail of Tears Narrative | At the Smithsonian | Smithsonian

Which ones are you suggesting?

 

[LouderVol]

The slave trading African continent has and is such a beacon of exceptionalism.


"Why 1619? Because that's when the first ship carrying African slaves arrived on American shores, and the Times intends to place "the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of the story we tell ourselves about who we are as a country." This reframing is necessary because out of slavery "grew nearly everything that has truly made America exceptional."

The argument that slaves built everything should piss off the unionists who contend it was only the south that was built on slavery

 

[Persian Vol]

What's hilarious is the one author trying to claim that traffic congestion in Atlanta is because of slavery.

While the overall comparison is certainly a hyperbole, there are truths to aspects of it...

“In the essay's final paragraphs, we learn that this is indeed the case — that the problem of traffic congestion is less about placement of the highways than about a lack of options for mass transit, and especially regional rail, that suburban Atlantans continually reject at the ballot box. This, Kruse argues, is blatant racism motived by white suburbanites seeking to prevent easy access for urban blacks to their exclusive neighborhoods.”

I grew up in the affluent North Atlanta suburbs, and fear mongering that the homeless/criminals of Atlanta will have easy access to their suburban communities through Marta expansion is not uncommon. Hell, even I was terrified of MARTA as a suburban teenager, or course until I became an adult and actually used it regularly and saw how convenient it was to avoid rush hour congestion when commuting.

 

[Bigun]

The slave trading African continent has and is such a beacon of exceptionalism.


"Why 1619? Because that's when the first ship carrying African slaves arrived on American shores, and the Times intends to place "the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of the story we tell ourselves about who we are as a country." This reframing is necessary because out of slavery "grew nearly everything that has truly made America exceptional."

Couldn't this be considered "black nationalism" and wouldn't that be racist and wrong?

 

[Orangeburst]

The argument that slaves built everything should piss off the unionists who contend it was only the south that was built on slavery

Or Obama, who said government.

 

[Orangeburst]

Which ones are you suggesting?

They are ubiquitous in name and monument to Ross and ToT.

The irony is the slave holding oppressors were being oppressed themselves.

This bad because of white man:



This ok because they were slave owners:

 

[LouderVol]

While the overall comparison is certainly a hyperbole, there are truths to aspects of it...

“In the essay's final paragraphs, we learn that this is indeed the case — that the problem of traffic congestion is less about placement of the highways than about a lack of options for mass transit, and especially regional rail, that suburban Atlantans continually reject at the ballot box. This, Kruse argues, is blatant racism motived by white suburbanites seeking to prevent easy access for urban blacks to their exclusive neighborhoods.”

I grew up in the affluent North Atlanta suburbs, and fear mongering that the homeless/criminals of Atlanta will have easy access to their suburban communities through Marta expansion is not uncommon. Hell, even I was terrified of MARTA as a suburban teenager, or course until I became an adult and actually used it regularly and saw how convenient it was to avoid rush hour congestion when commuting.

It's not just the white suburbanites fighting it.

Also any building of new Marta lines is going to inherently be racist as well. The new line will go in the poorest areas possible, just due to relative lack of resistance. And as per Biden poor means not white.

 

[Orangeburst]

Couldn't this be considered "black nationalism" and wouldn't that be racist and wrong?

I prefer to use the term "tribal".

 

[FLVOL_79]

While the overall comparison is certainly a hyperbole, there are truths to aspects of it...

“In the essay's final paragraphs, we learn that this is indeed the case — that the problem of traffic congestion is less about placement of the highways than about a lack of options for mass transit, and especially regional rail, that suburban Atlantans continually reject at the ballot box. This, Kruse argues, is blatant racism motived by white suburbanites seeking to prevent easy access for urban blacks to their exclusive neighborhoods.”

I grew up in the affluent North Atlanta suburbs, and fear mongering that the homeless/criminals of Atlanta will have easy access to their suburban communities through Marta expansion is not uncommon. Hell, even I was terrified of MARTA as a suburban teenager, or course until I became an adult and actually used it regularly and saw how convenient it was to avoid rush hour congestion when commuting.

Its 100% about 85 and 75 placement. Moron dims thought merging them would be smart..it wasnt. Then they built a toll road..a worthless toll road. Tje congestion is mostly White folks anyway if you knew about racial car ownership in this area.

 

[Persian Vol]

It's not just the white suburbanites fighting it.

Never said it was

 

[Orangeburst]

Its 100% about 85 and 75 placement. Moron dims thought merging them would be smart..it wasnt. Then they built a toll road..a worthless toll road. Tje congestion is mostly White folks anyway if you knew about racial car ownership in this area.

Atlanta is so screwed now. They had their chance to devise a hub and spoke system like they use in TX. Now the suburban sprawl makes it impossible.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Atlanta is so screwed now. They had their chance to devise a hob and spoke system like they use in TX. Now the suburban sprawl makes it impossible.

Its funny..all around Atlanta there are 4 lane highways built in the middle of nowhere. Anything that involves getting on 75 is a nightmare

 

[ClearwaterVol]

While the overall comparison is certainly a hyperbole, there are truths to aspects of it...

“In the essay's final paragraphs, we learn that this is indeed the case — that the problem of traffic congestion is less about placement of the highways than about a lack of options for mass transit, and especially regional rail, that suburban Atlantans continually reject at the ballot box. This, Kruse argues, is blatant racism motived by white suburbanites seeking to prevent easy access for urban blacks to their exclusive neighborhoods.”

I grew up in the affluent North Atlanta suburbs, and fear mongering that the homeless/criminals of Atlanta will have easy access to their suburban communities through Marta expansion is not uncommon. Hell, even I was terrified of MARTA as a suburban teenager, or course until I became an adult and actually used it regularly and saw how convenient it was to avoid rush hour congestion when commuting.

I attended high school in Michigan, Toronto and Knoxville. I learned about the civil war in all three schools. Michigan and Toronto schools focused on the slavery aspect and the inhumane practice that it was. In Knoxville, the teacher tried to minimize the atrocity that was slavery. I heard things like most slave owners were good to their slaves and the slaves themselves didn't mind the practice. Some masters even taught their slaves to read. We were taught the civil war was all about state's rights (ignoring the fact that the specific right at issue was the right to own folks).

None of the schools I went to ever taught about the contributions to the country made by slaves. We got to learn about two black people Harriet Tubman and George Washington Carver. A couple of paragraphs on each is what the lessons consisted of. No mention was made regarding the tremendous wealth generated by slaves.

All of this makes me not care about people, especially educators, taking a closer look at our history and giving it a more fair and balanced approach.