An expansion thought.

#26
#26
NC State is the best expansion team.
NC is a southern state with 4 ACC teams. Ridiculous. Charlotte and Raliegh are significant TV markets.
 
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#27
#27
I think Texas and OU will be headed to the PAC as posted above. That likely means Ok State too. Would be curious to see who the fourth school would be.

I think the best additions to the SEC would be West Virgina and TCU. West Virginia brings competitive football and basketball teams (I would have picked them over Mizzou), and TCU gives teams a chance to play in the DFW area.

And then some geographic reshuffling.
 
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#28
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Aavoxx said:
For example...

Alpha

Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Tennessee
Georgia

Beta

South Carolina
Florida
Auburn
Arkansas

Charlie

Alabama
Texas A&M
Mississippi State
Ole Miss

Delta

LSU
Missouri
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State

Directions don't make sense, insert your own division names.

Some school is hosed from a travel aspect. In this case, Arkansas.I'd also take Kansas, but this isn't a basketball conference.

Eight conference games. Perserve rivals. Cycle through as quickly as possible with home and home series.
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Here's what I would go with:
North

Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Tennessee
Virginia


East

South Carolina
Florida
Georgia
Auburn


South

Alabama
Arkansas
Mississippi State
Ole Miss

West

LSU
Missouri
Oklahoma
aTm

One rival game from each division: TN would play Fl, Bama and maybe Mizzou every year plus UK, Vandy and Virginia. Plus 2-3 rotational games from the other teams.

This would get us the OK, Virginia and Maryland TV markets and would increase our presence in NC and Kansas.
 
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#29
#29
The Oklahoma schools would be the perfect addition...Would love Texas as well but they seem to think they are just better than everybody else so let them survive on their own...Oklahoma and Oklahoma St would benefit from joining the SEC...Would create some great new rivalries and revive some old ones.
 
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cwbytruckers said:
Bring in Houston and SMU for the Dallas and Houston markets. I know Texas A&M helps with the Houston market. But we could move Alabama and Auburn to the East. It would help Balance out the conference. Just some passenger seat thinking. What are your thoughts? Expansion will happen again eventually anyways.
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Ah yes, expansion talk.

We already have the Houston market with Texas A&M. And SMU isn't worth anyone's addition, especially with the way the money from the SEC Network works.

And how does that balance everything out? All that setup does is make the Georgia Dome into pretty much a satellite campus for LSU.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
I think we get Oklahoma and some ACC team
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Oklahoma won't go anywhere without Oklahoma State. They don't have to stay tied at the hip, but they've shown they want to be. The powers that be at that university have shown during the last two realignment events that their interest to move is more towards the west coast with the PAC-12.
 
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ptcarter said:
The more teams you have, the harder it is to win a title. Do we really want expansion?
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Well, it's more that voting on issues can become harder. No one has to play all the teams in the conference in a given year.

But unless teams increase the slices of the overall revenue pie every member gets, they're also not worth adding.
 
#35
#35
I know expansion is all about money. However, I hate it. I would gladly get rid of aTm and Mizzou. I have no interest playing them. Mizzou is not even the South. I miss playing the traditional rivals like Ole Miss, Auburn, LSU every couple years. We lose the great away games like tailgating in the Grove. We play at those places like once every 10 years now.
 
#36
#36
I miss this.

Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisiana State
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
 
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TrueOrange said:
They probably would now, but we'd also likely turn them down now.
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I don't know...They have been the kings of the ACC since they joined...Been to a lot of big bowl games and made a lot of money from it...Joining the SEC would be a much harder path for them.
 
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allsgood21 said:
I like VT and Texas/Oklahoma if we expand again.

Move Missouri in the West and put Auburn in the East.
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Texas will never join this conference because our rules mean they would have to give up their Longhorn Network and ESPN money. Oklahoma, unfortunately, wants Oklahoma State to come with it (meaning the state would have to be doubled-down on) and has twice expressed greater interest into the PAC-12 over this conference.

Moving Auburn to the East won't happen, it would result in either ending the third Saturday in October or the Iron Bowl.
 
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cwbytruckers said:
I could see the BIG12 going bye bye and us getting Texas, TCU, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. That would make the SEC untouchable.
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The Big 12 should go away. They continue to prove they don't belong at the big boy table. It's basically three good teams with Texas, OU, and TCU, then a bunch of scrubs that would be middle of the pack in the American Conference.
 
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TNnative said:
Looking at it from a standpoint of the two major cash sports, Houston might be an interesting addition. They have been rising in football, and for men's basketball, it is the home of Phi Slamma Jamma.

Had SMU not done all the things that got them the death penalty. Otherwise they have done little to make them more attractive than Memphis. And No, I don't want them.

But if expansion to 16 is going to happen, add new states to improve everyone's recruiting footprint. Most logical states are North Carolina and Virginia. And Charlottesville and Chapel Hill would not be a bad trip.
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Houston would more or less just be doubling down on the same area covered by A&M though with how the SEC Network's contract works.
 
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cwbytruckers said:
I could see the BIG12 going bye bye and us getting Texas, TCU, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. That would make the SEC untouchable.
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We don't want Texas.....ever.

It would be them vs everyone else on decision making. And there is more to it than the LHN.

Had another Texas school joined with A&M, it might have worked. But I would think the haggies will be like Georgia, and oppose any other TX school coming in.

As to the OK schools, maybe. It just took two meetings to start hating the Sooners.

But if B12 does fold, or if we wanted a school from that state, West Virginia or maybe even Marshall might be worth a look. All I ask is no more Tigers. We had enough with Auburn and LSU.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Every conference needs a couple of cupcakes. But to balance things out, we should move Bama and Auburn to East, put Mizzou and Vandy out West, gets rid of the need for GA and TN to have fixed crossover games
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And then the conference can buy LSU a timeshare in Atlanta.
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
Here's what I would go with:
North

Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Tennessee
Virginia


East

South Carolina
Florida
Georgia
Auburn


South

Alabama
Arkansas
Mississippi State
Ole Miss

West

LSU
Missouri
Oklahoma
aTm

One rival game from each division: TN would play Fl, Bama and maybe Mizzou every year plus UK, Vandy and Virginia. Plus 2-3 rotational games from the other teams.

This would get us the OK, Virginia and Maryland TV markets and would increase our presence in NC and Kansas.
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Good lord those are not balanced.

(Also how would that give us a presence in Kansas? I guess my next question might be, why does the conference need one?)
 
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volgrad500 said:
The Big 12 should go away. They continue to prove they don't belong at the big boy table. It's basically three good teams with Texas, OU, and TCU, then a bunch of scrubs that would be middle of the pack in the American Conference.
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Well what about the B10? Basically, you have Michigan, Ohio State,....and friends. Wisconsin and Michigan State are good, and Penn State might be getting back from being a punchline, but you have to have a list to remember who else is in there.
 
#46
#46
Realistically schools like Houston, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, and maybe an ACC member like FSU or VT (I don't know how likely that would be compared to the Big 12 programs).

I wish we could rid ourselves of A&M and Missouri (Especially Missouri) and go back to 12 teams, but I understand expansion is the future of college football, so in a perfect world 2-4 of Miami, FSU, VT, UNC, Oklahoma and/or West Virginia would suffice.
 
#47
#47
It's a bye week! Time to talk random stuff ha. I love these threads.

I know it's crazy but I've always gotten a kick out of a 15-team, 3-division setup. Here's one with the Hokies for an example. Incidentally, there are six "senior military colleges" in the USA, where federal law (10 U.S. Code § 2111a(f)) says specifically that, ok, these six schools are military colleges. One very visible one is Texas A&M. Another is Virginia Tech. That'd be a cool conference rivalry! Anyway:

EAST
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Virginia Tech

CENTRAL
Alabama
Auburn
Missouri
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

WEST
Arkansas
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Texas A&M

RULES:
* Each team plays an eight-game conference schedule: every division opponent every year, plus two inter-divisional opponents every year.

* Four team conference championship; division winners, plus a non-champion wildcard team with the best conference record (which somewhat addresses those years where the 2nd-best team in one division has a better record than the 1st place team in another). Perk! SEC eventually gets to be the first FBS conference with a 15-0 national champion. And no one can convince me that a 15 game season for two teams is an issue. FCS has done it for years.

* Permanent playoff venues: East - Atlanta, Central - Nashville/Birmingham, West - New Orleans. Rotate semifinals and championship games.

* Automatically preserves *almost* all the biggest rivalries by making them division games: 3rd Saturday in October, World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, Southwest Classic, Iron Bowl, Egg Bowl, Battle for the Golden Boot. Loses the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry though :/ Might have to add permanent inter-divisional rivals.

* Pretty balanced at the moment: East is led by Florida, Georgia and Tech. Central has Bama, Barn and us. West has A&M, LSU and Ole Miss.
 
#48
#48
Since we are all being crazy and just throwing things out there, I say we go back to original SEC.

Bama
Auburn
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Florida
Kentucky
LSU
Old Miss
Miss State
Sewanee
Tennessee
Tulane
Vandy
 
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#49
#49
We should swap USCe for GT or VT, either would be a natural Geographic Rival for TN, the GA wouldn't have to go out of conference with GT every year. Move Arky and Houston to Big 12. Put Mizzou in Big10, Move either Illinois/Rutgers/Maryland to AAC.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
We should swap USCe for GT or VT, either would be a natural Geographic Rival for TN, the GA wouldn't have to go out of conference with GT every year. Move Arky and Houston to Big 12. Put Mizzou in Big10, Move either Illinois/Rutgers/Maryland to AAC.
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We should encourage Clemson and Kentucky to swap conferences.
 
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