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i will lay out what i have seen from tennessee basketball and people here can take it for what it's worth.

there is one thing i see that is a coaching problem. the other issues i see are because the team is flawed. it happens, especially after losing several members of an elite 8 squad. florida went to the NIT two years in a row and i know billy donovan can coach.

ok, the coaching problem. tennessee plays too many players. if you are going to play an arkansas "40 minutes of hell" style basketball, then you can wear opponents down with pace and depth. if you are going to play at a halfcourt pace, you aren't going to wear out your opponent. so, some of the guys on the very end of the bench don't need to play or at least not play significant minutes. and they definitely don't need to play during critical junctures of the game. i won't mention names of players, but it's kind of obvious.

not to mention, there are some guys who don't bring anything to the table that get playing time. they don't defend well. they don't penetrate a defense off the dribble. they don't set up teammates for baskets. they don't strech a defense and open up the floor for the other players on the court. they don't shoot well from the perimeter. they don't block shots or make steals. they don't hit free throws. why the hell are they in the game?

that part is coaching.

the other aspects are situations where the staff is playing the hand they are dealt.

there is not a dominant post presence. there isn't a good floor general. there isn't a consistent outside shooting threat. scotty hopson is asked to do too much. he can't be the team's main offensive scoring threat and distribute to his teammates. that's a hard thing to ask of a player. they don't shoot free throws well.

despite all the problems that have taken place, tennessee has lost 5 games by either a single point or in overtime. while i do subscribe to the bill parcells maxim that "you are what your record says you are", the fact is there isn't a whole lot that would have to have taken place for tennessee to be 20-5 and having the best record in the SEC instead of 15-10. you can't "suck" and have a bad coach and beat pitt, villanova, and vandy. they also have been in the game down to the wire against several other quality opponents.

when you have a proven coach (and pearl is a proven coach) and the team isn't playing all that great, it usually means the players are the problem. either they are young and need to improve or they are not overly talented. but, when you are not duke, you go through some less then memorable seasons.

florida has been the exact opposite this season. florida has won 5 games by a single point or in overtime this season. sometimes that's just the way it goes, because **** happens.

pearl isn't phil fulmer and this isn't football. florida, north carolina, connecticut, syracuse, and maryland have all missed the ncaa tournament since the year 2000 and all of them have won the ncaa championship since 2000. they are all coached by likely basketball hall of fame coaches. michigan state, duke, and kansas are the other schools who won titles since that time and michigan state is in serious jeopardy of missing the tourney. tom izzo is yet another hall of fame coach.

good luck the rest of the season. i am betting tennessee makes the dance.
 
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totally agree....if you have a court full of youngters that wants their shot to make it on sportscenter its hard to win games.

I know to some or a lot that doesn't watch the Memphis Grizzlies play, but this looks like the team 10 years ago. Making wild shots and whining over ref calls and not getting back up the court. If you put the individual ahead of the team you will never succeed.
 
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We regularly give up game-changing runs, because too much of our offense is on the bench. It looked like we showed up yesterday planning to play 10 guys. When Tobias got in foul trouble, Maymon was added to the rotation and split the PF minutes with Pearl. When Williams was briefly hurt, Hall was added. So, we played 12 guys in a halfcourt, possession-by-possession, 61-60 ballgame.
 
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It's a team that even though they're sloppy as h--l, just doesn't know how to finish games. They've had about 5 blown opportunities to win these close ones and pretty much lost them all because of lack of execution on the offensive end.

They lead all game last night and when it really mattered forgot how to play the only thing they're half way decent at, defense.

The Gators can thank their point guard for both of their wins against Tennessee this year. They let him blow by them for easy ones or foul him and give him easy ones at the charity stripe. Pitiful on all accounts.
 
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Astute and accurate observations. I sometimes find it shocking how accurate some lay people are when the coaching staff on the other hand can completely miss entirely the logic you have laid out for all of us here.

Just wish you would have specified who you would have left sitting on the bench and why. If I have time later today I will toss out my suggestions.

Thanks for the opine.

Note: I actually think members of the staff have lobbied in the past for less SP but this was vetoed by CBP.

At least we know that problem will be fixed next year.
 
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I thought this thread was going to about Pony Boy's perspective on things.
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Great post. But looking at Uf it took a championship program 4 yrs to get back to where you should be. So with us having recruting restrictions along with what you stated our next few seasons don't look good.
 
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Great post. But looking at Uf it took a championship program 4 yrs to get back to where you should be. So with us having recruting restrictions along with what you stated our next few seasons don't look good.

It's much easier to rebuild in basketball than in other sports at the college level.
 
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It's much easier to rebuild in basketball than in other sports at the college level.

agreed. it took florida 4 years to rebuild because they missed on a lot of recruits (were not as good as advertised).

the people they did hit a home run with, left early.

speights and calathes.

it's part of the reason being consistently good in college basketball is hard. most all of the players on a roster have flaws in their game. if they don't have flaws, or the flaws are minimal......they are one and done type guys.

i would hate being like kentucky. if calipari is going to continue to try to make the final four with 3 to 4 18 year old starters, it ain't gonna happen......at least not consistently which is what they demand at kentucky.
 
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the other aspects are situations where the staff is playing the hand they are dealt.

How so? All these players were recruited by Pearl. It isn't as if he was just hired last year and is working with another coach's recruits. No excuse there.
 
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when you have a proven coach (and pearl is a proven coach) and the team isn't playing all that great, it usually means the players are the problem. either they are young and need to improve or they are not overly talented. but, when you are not duke, you go through some less then memorable seasons.
Throughout his tenure here, Pearl has failed with his more talented players. This team has issues, but 5-5 in the dumpster fire of a conference that is the SEC this year is not remotely excusable. Pearl's done, and the players seem to be well aware of that.
 
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How so? All these players were recruited by Pearl. It isn't as if he was just hired last year and is working with another coach's recruits. No excuse there.

for one bad year? sure there is.

it's college basketball. there are players you are going to hit and miss on.

there are other clubs that are also going to rise and fall from year to year.

tennessee has made the sweet sixteen 3 of the last 4 years. the other schools that accomplished that are kansas, north carolina, memphis, and michigan state.

that's it.

tennessee is an elite basketball program since pearl took over. they are an elite program having a down year. as pointed out in the original post, elite programs miss the tournament from time to time.
 
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for one bad year? sure there is.

it's college basketball. there are players you are going to hit and miss on.

there are other clubs that are also going to rise and fall from year to year.

tennessee has made the sweet sixteen 3 of the last 4 years. the other schools that accomplished that are kansas, north carolina, memphis, and michigan state.

that's it.

tennessee is an elite basketball program since pearl took over. they are an elite program having a down year. as pointed out in the original post, elite programs miss the tournament from time to time.

While Pearl has been here, no player has been selected in the NBA draft.

This year, we apparently had players capable of changing that, but this is his worst team.
 

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