Analysis of our losses

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Continuing to hear the lack of speed excuse made me go back and look at all of our losses and wins for that matter. After, I get it and fully agree with speed being the number one issue with this team. There are other issues but speed is the most glaring.

Breakdown of losses
1. Oregon - offense with a super fast QB that runs a super fast zone read offense on steroids

2. Florida - The Nathan Peterman experience and the insertion of a fast backup QB that we had no film on. When we played Florida Murphy was a run first QB and it played to our weakness.

3. Georgia - This game should have been won by us so nothing to see here except that our defense played better against them because it was a pro style offense meaning Gap assignments are more important than speed

4. Mizzou - a form of the zone read with a supper fast white boy (much faster than Shaw) and super fast RB.

5. Alabama - I hate Alabama but anybody that says they are not in a different class than anyone in the nation is just in denial.

6. Auburn - yet another zone read offense with a super fast QB and RB.

In looking at the losses, it is clear that this defense cannot defend against teams with elite talent that run the zone read or a form of the zone read. You can take all the right angles and play assignment all you want but it will be for not if you don't have the speed as well because you start trying to over compensate which then causes bad angels and guessing where the play will go.

So yes, when CBJ says speed is the biggest issue with this defense, he is correct. The good thing is that the next 2 teams are pro style and for that I believe we win out.

As for the future, like it or not, zone read is going to become the norm in College. A coach does not have time to rebuild a program as a typical pro style like Bama. The Zone read attracts elite offensive talent immediately and in bulk. Lets face it, there is no patience at any program for a 5 year rebuild plan that an elite pro-style would take. CBJ knows this and he knows that you can't teach speed.
 
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Very good analysis.

Butch is fixing the speed issue on defense. Just look at the '14 recruiting class and you will see that. :thumbsup:
 
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With the exception of Florida all of our losses have come agains top 25 teams according to the ap poll. We've lost to #1 #6 #7 #9 and #25 teams in the country. We also beat #11. Yeah we're used to being considered a top 25 team but our current talent is nowhere close to that. The schedule has been impossible
 
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In looking at the losses, it is clear that this defense cannot defend against teams with elite talent that run the zone read or a form of the zone read. You can take all the right angles and play assignment all you want but it will be for not if you don't have the speed as well because you start trying to over compensate which then causes bad angels and guessing where the play will go.
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So that means when we practice/scrimmage (not scout teams) we play a different style? I would assume the Defense should have a better grasp of those teams by now.

I think we might lack the speed on Offense for sure. I don't know what team actually has a "fast/speedy" defense. It's our offense that kills us. Stanford beat Oregon by actually controlling the clock. I don't their Defense was fast at all.
 
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utshawn said:
Continuing to hear the lack of speed excuse made me go back and look at all of our losses and wins for that matter. After, I get it and fully agree with speed being the number one issue with this team. There are other issues but speed is the most glaring.

Breakdown of losses
1. Oregon - offense with a super fast QB that runs a super fast zone read offense on steroids

2. Florida - The Nathan Peterman experience and the insertion of a fast backup QB that we had no film on. When we played Florida Murphy was a run first QB and it played to our weakness.

3. Georgia - This game should have been won by us so nothing to see here except that our defense played better against them because it was a pro style offense meaning Gap assignments are more important than speed

4. Mizzou - a form of the zone read with a supper fast white boy (much faster than Shaw) and super fast RB.

5. Alabama - I hate Alabama but anybody that says they are not in a different class than anyone in the nation is just in denial.

6. Auburn - yet another zone read offense with a super fast QB and RB.

In looking at the losses, it is clear that this defense cannot defend against teams with elite talent that run the zone read or a form of the zone read. You can take all the right angles and play assignment all you want but it will be for not if you don't have the speed as well because you start trying to over compensate which then causes bad angels and guessing where the play will go.

So yes, when CBJ says speed is the biggest issue with this defense, he is correct. The good thing is that the next 2 teams are pro style and for that I believe we win out.

As for the future, like it or not, zone read is going to become the norm in College. A coach does not have time to rebuild a program as a typical pro style like Bama. The Zone read attracts elite offensive talent immediately and in bulk. Lets face it, there is no patience at any program for a 5 year rebuild plan that an elite pro-style would take. CBJ knows this and he knows that you can't teach speed.
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Don't say "white boy"...I don't like that...understand?
 
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Dougie_D said:
So that means when we practice/scrimmage (not scout teams) we play a different style? I would assume the Defense should have a better grasp of those teams by now.

I think we might lack the speed on Offense for sure. I don't know what team actually has a "fast/speedy" defense. It's our offense that kills us. Stanford beat Oregon by actually controlling the clock. I don't their Defense was fast at all.
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Honestly we're slow on both sides of the ball. I bet that's why the defense takes such poor pursuit angles; they're used to chasing after guys that are a little slower.

Butch put such emphasis early in the year on wanting to make big, game-breaking plays. Besides some miraculous catches by North I don't think we're capable of that. Even when our RB's make it into space they're not burning anybody.
 
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wheaton said:
Even when our RB's make it into space they're not burning anybody.
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If you want to see evidence of this look at the long run Neal had against Alabama. If he was as fast as DAT or [insert speedy back here] he would have been gone for 6.
 
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wolfej said:
If you want to see evidence of this look at the long run Neal had against Alabama. If he was as fast as DAT or [insert speedy back here] he would have been gone for 6.
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The crazy thing is that he is one of the fastest guys on the team. How he manages to make himself look like he is running through molasses is beyond me.
 
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Cheese Donkey said:
The crazy thing is that he is one of the fastest guys on the team. How he manages to make himself look like he is running through molasses is beyond me.
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I don't think he has great speed on the field for some reason. Some people can't transfer their speed from the track to the field.
 
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utshawn said:
Continuing to hear the lack of speed excuse made me go back and look at all of our losses and wins for that matter. After, I get it and fully agree with speed being the number one issue with this team. There are other issues but speed is the most glaring.

Breakdown of losses
1. Oregon - offense with a super fast QB that runs a super fast zone read offense on steroids

2. Florida - The Nathan Peterman experience and the insertion of a fast backup QB that we had no film on. When we played Florida Murphy was a run first QB and it played to our weakness.

3. Georgia - This game should have been won by us so nothing to see here except that our defense played better against them because it was a pro style offense meaning Gap assignments are more important than speed

4. Mizzou - a form of the zone read with a supper fast white boy (much faster than Shaw) and super fast RB.

5. Alabama - I hate Alabama but anybody that says they are not in a different class than anyone in the nation is just in denial.

6. Auburn - yet another zone read offense with a super fast QB and RB.

In looking at the losses, it is clear that this defense cannot defend against teams with elite talent that run the zone read or a form of the zone read. You can take all the right angles and play assignment all you want but it will be for not if you don't have the speed as well because you start trying to over compensate which then causes bad angels and guessing where the play will go.

So yes, when CBJ says speed is the biggest issue with this defense, he is correct. The good thing is that the next 2 teams are pro style and for that I believe we win out.

As for the future, like it or not, zone read is going to become the norm in College. A coach does not have time to rebuild a program as a typical pro style like Bama. The Zone read attracts elite offensive talent immediately and in bulk. Lets face it, there is no patience at any program for a 5 year rebuild plan that an elite pro-style would take. CBJ knows this and he knows that you can't teach speed.
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Exactly what I see..."You can take all the right angles and play assignment all you want but it will be for not if you don't have the speed as well because you start trying to over compensate which then causes bad angels and guessing where the play will go". Spot on description of our team speed!
 
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Tennessee linebackers cannot tackle in space. No containment from defensive ends...defensive backfield other than sutton and randolph cannot cover in space---always seem to be out of position or very slow to react....move a j johnson to defensive end.....find a non walkon at nickel back who can tackle a qb!!!!
 
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The bad losses were about matchups. They didn't favor the Vols. Good coaches always see the matchups that favor them. Those teams exploited them to the fullest. You can put more speed on the field to combat it. That is if you have it. We apparently don't have any..
 
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MustafaRasta said:
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since thuh grammer Nazis is out in force ah thought ah'd point out its "all for naught" as in nothing and

not not.

whose thar?

grammer nazi

not ze grammer Poe-lice?

nah we have more fun wi it

quicher raven, nevermore will I do this:crazy:
 
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The part I don't understand is that we've been waiting for years now for a game like Georgia and then we finally win a game like the Carolina game and all's well in big orange country. Since then we look like a bunch of neighborhood kids running around the yard without a clue what to do. I just don't get it....its the simple things that every football player has been coached to do for years and years and we still look lost on kick off coverage and special teams....beats the crap out of me why !!
 
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