Another guard who would be eligible right away

#26
#26
Love a blast from the past. Vegas Davis huh.... I know what you mean about how good those guys are in pick-up games. Worked a basketball camp at my alma mater with Tony Harris and Rashard Lee, in 1998. Tony Harris was the fastest thing I had ever seen on two feet. And Lee was a freak in our pick-up games. Tony was a pretty good college player, when he wasnt shooting us out of games. But Lee was just an average college player.

Oh yea. Tony was fast. Saw him my first couple of years in school. Vegas was a freak athlete.
 
#27
#27
Oh yea. Tony was fast. Saw him my first couple of years in school. Vegas was a freak athlete.

Cool name too. He is in my top five favorite Vol names. 2spots behind #1..... Alico Dunk

Quick story. When Kevin O'neil was at UT my buddy and I used to sneak in to TBA. He worked in the Adidas intake dept so he had a key. Anyway, I wish I could have recorded this one instance with Kevin O'neil bashing Alico Dunk. One day O'neal ran to the top of the first section at TBA and screamed "O'neal your terrible! Why would you even offer that kid a scholarship. That is worst point guard play in the history of basketball."

felt bad for poor ole Alico. One of the funniest things I've ever seen a coach do though.
 
#28
#28
Cool name too. He is in my top five favorite Vol names. 2spots behind #1..... Alico Dunk

Quick story. When Kevin O'neil was at UT my buddy and I used to sneak in to TBA. He worked in the Adidas intake dept so he had a key. Anyway, I wish I could have recorded this one instance with Kevin O'neil bashing Alico Dunk. One day O'neal ran to the top of the first section at TBA and screamed "O'neal your terrible! Why would you even offer that kid a scholarship. That is worst point guard play in the history of basketball."

felt bad for poor ole Alico. One of the funniest things I've ever seen a coach do though.

That's hilarious. Not surprised with O'Neil. Being from Memphis, there are some interesting stories I have heard about Calipari in practice. Very demanding and not afraid to call people out.
 
#29
#29
That's hilarious. Not surprised with O'Neil. Being from Memphis, there are some interesting stories I have heard about Calipari in practice. Very demanding and not afraid to call people out.

That would be an understatement regarding Cal.
 
#30
#30
Wasn't cherry picking stats, kind of picking the stats that would be important to Tennessee. We don't need a scoring PG, we had one in golden and we saw our fair share of the issues it brought. For a lot of teams a scoring PG is a great thing, but with our roster build we don't need a score first PG, so thats why i didnt really mention PPG. The biggest red flag to me is 3pt% and ft%, we really need a PG who can hit the outside shot, his 3pt% is about as good as Shaq's, and his FT % may even be worse than Shaq's.

You say yourself he's a wing, his bad stats were a result of being forced to play PG, well guess what he'd play at UT? The discussion wasn't about Memphis and his fit, but since that's where you took it ill give my 2 cents. Unless Pookie and Iverson aren't gonna qualify I wouldn't touch this kid if I was Pastner. You have someone with a history of being disruptive, and you wanna bring him onto a team that has some guys with questionable characters already. This is a big year for Pastner, do you really wanna risk this guy becoming disruptive if he's only getting 10mpg?

I agree with this 1000 percent. If I was a Memphis fan, if that guy didn't figure out how to coach a player-actually help a player improve his game-then he'd have to go. I have yet to see him be an actual basketball coach.

The Tigers made a desperation hire-one they had to make-but seem totally unwilling to now review where he is as a coach.
 
#31
#31
I agree with this 1000 percent. If I was a Memphis fan, if that guy didn't figure out how to coach a player-actually help a player improve his game-then he'd have to go. I have yet to see him be an actual basketball coach.

The Tigers made a desperation hire-one they had to make-but seem totally unwilling to now review where he is as a coach.

Yeah as nice a guy as Josh is he just can't coach...at least not yet...and his recruiting guru just left for the state of Arizona...so he may have to work even harder now...
 
#32
#32
I agree with this 1000 percent. If I was a Memphis fan, if that guy didn't figure out how to coach a player-actually help a player improve his game-then he'd have to go. I have yet to see him be an actual basketball coach.

The Tigers made a desperation hire-one they had to make-but seem totally unwilling to now review where he is as a coach.

:hello2:

He's a millionaire. Has advanced each year....that's where he is. I guess he could have won it all by now.
 
#33
#33
:hello2:

He's a millionaire. Has advanced each year....that's where he is. I guess he could have won it all by now.

C'mon, be honest. I'm not trying to be a prick, but be real. He hasn't beaten anybody-his one "ranked" win was against St. Joes, who was ranked 25th in one poll. I actually like the guy, I honestly do. But that program has all the tools in the world to win-and he flat hasn't done it. He has had far superior talent than his conference foes, but OOC has done jack.
 
#34
#34
C'mon, be honest. I'm not trying to be a prick, but be real. He hasn't beaten anybody-his one "ranked" win was against St. Joes, who was ranked 25th in one poll. I actually like the guy, I honestly do. But that program has all the tools in the world to win-and he flat hasn't done it. He has had far superior talent than his conference foes, but OOC has done jack.

I AM being honest. He's a 35 year old coach who's had a head coaching job for 4 years. He's had a lofty won/lost record each year. He's had a lot of talent but with as much talent there are problem players. He's at least been able to sort those out and eventually fix them. They've had some good wins (maybe not top 25 at the time of the win) but beat Xavier in '12 who was later ranked top 25. Beat Gonzaga at their place. The win @ Tennessee last year was a big win. The win in the tourney was St. Mary's BTW, not St Joes.

With the conference being weak the past few years, there hasn't been tons of opportunities to win those games. The team hasn't seen enough of the MSUs, Michigans, etc to gain the confidence they need. This is all partly the coaches fault but I still give him some slack because of his experience.

For 2013 he has two terrific assistant coaches (Robert Kirby and Aki Collins.....third to be named later.....(maybe a Miles Simon type). His recruiting has been great for a team that was left for dead and a team that many high level coaches wouldn't touch when Cal left.

The OOC schedule for '13 is going to be a killer: Louisville, UCONN, Okla St (twice), Gonzaga and Florida should be some of the tougher ones. There's the Old Spice tournament with Butler, LSU, Okla St, Purdue, St Joe's, Siena and Wash St. If Pastner doesn't come away from a few of those with wins, I'll start to worry.
 
#35
#35
I AM being honest. He's a 35 year old coach who's had a head coaching job for 4 years. He's had a lofty won/lost record each year. He's had a lot of talent but with as much talent there are problem players. He's at least been able to sort those out and eventually fix them. They've had some good wins (maybe not top 25 at the time of the win) but beat Xavier in '12 who was later ranked top 25. Beat Gonzaga at their place. The win @ Tennessee last year was a big win. The win in the tourney was St. Mary's BTW, not St Joes.

With the conference being weak the past few years, there hasn't been tons of opportunities to win those games. The team hasn't seen enough of the MSUs, Michigans, etc to gain the confidence they need. This is all partly the coaches fault but I still give him some slack because of his experience.

For 2013 he has two terrific assistant coaches (Robert Kirby and Aki Collins.....third to be named later.....(maybe a Miles Simon type). His recruiting has been great for a team that was left for dead and a team that many high level coaches wouldn't touch when Cal left.

The OOC schedule for '13 is going to be a killer: Louisville, UCONN, Okla St (twice), Gonzaga and Florida should be some of the tougher ones. There's the Old Spice tournament with Butler, LSU, Okla St, Purdue, St Joe's, Siena and Wash St. If Pastner doesn't come away from a few of those with wins, I'll start to worry.

Loved Miles Simon as a player. Those Zona teams were a ton of fun to watch.
 
#38
#38
The OOC schedule for '13 is going to be a killer: Louisville, UCONN, Okla St (twice), Gonzaga and Florida should be some of the tougher ones. There's the Old Spice tournament with Butler, LSU, Okla St, Purdue, St Joe's, Siena and Wash St. If Pastner doesn't come away from a few of those with wins, I'll start to worry.

For clarity, UL and UConn are not OOC; old habits die hard. And OSU is one game definite, one game possible in tourney. The new home-home schedule with OSU and Gonzaga (pending contract signing/modification) are a step in the right direction for Memphis.
 
#39
#39
Barton chose Texas A&M which is strange they are far far from home.
 
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