Anti-Obama Billboard In Denver

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DaVol is now getting a run at his unanimous title - hard.
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VOLS INC. said:
Ok so with that logic you tell me whats worse now.

I'll meet your son and tell him I can't wait till you die and take your rightful place in hell

Or

I'll get a picture of him, buy a billboard space near your neigborhood and his school, Post the picture on the bilboard with a passage next to it that ask if he really who he says he is or is he a terrorist. Oh and ill also suggest that your son was responsible for FORT HOOD

He's probably not gonna have a great day at school or football practice then huh?
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The billboard is in Colorado, it's not near you precious Obama or the White House. You fail again.

I guess if it was a billboard saying that Bush organized and orchestrated 9/11, you'd be against it.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Oh and i'm not a liberal. I'm just not dumb and naive enough to support any of the politicians that are currently in the republican party.
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And yet you seem more than willing to trust and support Obama and much of this current administration? Even when they have given you very good reason to question their motives?
 
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I amazes me that in some circles George Bush was an idiot, then on the same hand smart enough to plan the bombing of the Twin Towers and to Flood New Orleans!! Some people need to make up their minds!!!
 
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RockyTopVol said:
You're wrong. They'll just say the facts were spun by the right wing.
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More proof that i am not the only one that thinks this. This is a retired firefighter. Someone that gave his life to protect people no matter of race, nationality, or political party. I suppose you think this HERO that risk his life everyday is an idiot too.

An Appeal to Firefighters, Present and Past

Fellow Firefighters, A great tragedy befell our community on September 11, 2001, an unprecedented 343 deaths in the line of duty. As horrible as that toll is, if there were a rational explanation for it, we could accept it and mourn. We all understood the risk we accepted when we took the oath of office, that chance might cut short our lives when we placed ourselves in harm’s way in the public’s service. This is what we are paid for and it is our honor. However, in short, the official explanation of the events of that day are not only insufficient, they are fantastic and cannot bear rational examination. We are asked to believe that on that day three structural steel buildings, which have never before in history collapsed because of fire, fell neatly into their basements at the speed of gravity, their concrete reduced to dust. We are asked to believe that jet fuel (kerosene) can melt steel. We are asked to believe that the most sophisticated air defense system in the world, that responded to sixty-eight emergencies in the year prior to 9-11 in less than twenty minutes allowed aircraft to wander about for up to an hour and a half. We are asked to believe that the steel and titanium components of an aircraft that supposedly hit the Pentagon “evaporated”. There is much, much more if anyone cares to look into it. Trade Tower #7 by itself is the “smoking gun”. Not hit by an aircraft, with only a few relatively small fires, it came down in a classic crimp and implosion, going straight into its basement, something only very precise demolition can accomplish, which takes days if not weeks to prepare. The 9-11 Commission actually stated the they DIDN’T KNOW WHY IT COLLAPSED AND LEFT IT AT THAT. Brothers, I know that the implications of the above are hard, almost unthinkable, but the official explanation is utter nonsense, and three hundred and forty three murdered brothers are crying out for justice. Demand a genuine investigation into the events of September 11!

-Anton Vodvarka, Lt. FDNY (ret)
 
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VOLS INC. said:
More prof that i am not the only one that thinks this. This is a retired firefighter. Someone that gave his life to protect people no matter of race, nationality, or political party. I suppose you think this HERO that risk his life everyday is an idiot too.

An Appeal to Firefighters, Present and Past

Fellow Firefighters, A great tragedy befell our community on September 11, 2001, an unprecedented 343 deaths in the line of duty. As horrible as that toll is, if there were a rational explanation for it, we could accept it and mourn. We all understood the risk we accepted when we took the oath of office, that chance might cut short our lives when we placed ourselves in harm’s way in the public’s service. This is what we are paid for and it is our honor. However, in short, the official explanation of the events of that day are not only insufficient, they are fantastic and cannot bear rational examination. We are asked to believe that on that day three structural steel buildings, which have never before in history collapsed because of fire, fell neatly into their basements at the speed of gravity, their concrete reduced to dust. We are asked to believe that jet fuel (kerosene) can melt steel. We are asked to believe that the most sophisticated air defense system in the world, that responded to sixty-eight emergencies in the year prior to 9-11 in less than twenty minutes allowed aircraft to wander about for up to an hour and a half. We are asked to believe that the steel and titanium components of an aircraft that supposedly hit the Pentagon “evaporated”. There is much, much more if anyone cares to look into it. Trade Tower #7 by itself is the “smoking gun”. Not hit by an aircraft, with only a few relatively small fires, it came down in a classic crimp and implosion, going straight into its basement, something only very precise demolition can accomplish, which takes days if not weeks to prepare. The 9-11 Commission actually stated the they DIDN’T KNOW WHY IT COLLAPSED AND LEFT IT AT THAT. Brothers, I know that the implications of the above are hard, almost unthinkable, but the official explanation is utter nonsense, and three hundred and forty three murdered brothers are crying out for justice. Demand a genuine investigation into the events of September 11!

-Anton Vodvarka, Lt. FDNY (ret)
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Has anyone ever laid out just how these buildings were secretly gone into, have the steel cut, and the charges laid into the cuts, wired, all without anyone noticing what was going on? I don't know about you, but when I see people working on construction type projects, I usually stop and watch for a minute or two. Surely I'm not the only person that does this.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Has anyone ever laid out just how these buildings were secretly gone into, have the steel cut, and the charges laid into the cuts, wired, all without anyone noticing what was going on? I don't know about you, but when I see people working on construction type projects, I usually stop and watch for a minute or two. Surely I'm not the only person that does this.
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Has anyone ever found out why our air defense failed us so miserably that day. I mean what the retired firefighter said is the truth, It's fact. Just one year prior they responded to 68 emergencies in less than 20 min but yet on 911 these guys were asleep on the job. Somethings not adding up that's all im saying
 
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Oldvol75 said:
I amazes me that in some circles George Bush was an idiot, then on the same hand smart enough to plan the bombing of the Twin Towers and to Flood New Orleans!! Some people need to make up their minds!!!
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Made me laugh!!

I feel the same way!
 
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Oldvol75 said:
I amazes me that in some circles George Bush was an idiot, then on the same hand smart enough to plan the bombing of the Twin Towers and to Flood New Orleans!! Some people need to make up their minds!!!
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I think most that think this don't mean that we think bush planned the attacks, it's more pointed to his administration. I've been very critical of bush and ill admit that not all of it is fair criticism but thats because he is the face. TO me bush was a puppet, I think chaney and rumsfeld were more responsible for most of these issues. Bush just had to take the fall. Not that he wasn't involved, but he wasn't soley responsible for anything. His stupidity is how they were able to take advantage of him. To put it in football terms it's kind of like coaching the oakland raiders. Al davis is making all the decisions behind the scenes but the coach is the face of the team, and will get the credit or take the fall
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Has anyone ever found out why our air defense failed us so miserably that day. I mean what the retired firefighter said is the truth, It's fact. Just one year prior they responded to 68 emergencies in less than 20 min but yet on 911 these guys were asleep on the job. Somethings not adding up that's all im saying
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Well we did ground every plane that was flying in the US that day and amazing feat. Plus just how much explaining would we have had to do if the Air Force started shooting down civilian airplanes? Remember just how many airplanes fly daily in the US. Do we have a big enough Air Force to get to every single plane that was flying that day? We did not know which ones were hi-jacked and which ones were not. Thats alot of planes to monitor at one time.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Well we did ground every plane that was flying in the US that day and amazing feat. Plus just how much explaining would we have had to do if the Air Force started shooting down civilian airplanes? Remember just how many airplanes fly daily in the US. Do we have a big enough Air Force to get to every single plane that was flying that day? We did not know which ones were hi-jacked and which ones were not. Thats alot of planes to monitor at one time.
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Yeah we did, they were the ones that were flying in the wrong frickin direction. Remember these planes turned around in the air. It's not like they hit the towers on the way to the original destination. As soon as the planes turned around we should have responded like we did 68 times the year before in less than 20 min and had planes in the air after them.
 
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RockyTopVol said:
:eek:lol:

Anti-Obama billboard in suburban Denver, Colorado stirs controversy; asks for birth certificate - KDVR
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I wonder if this guy has even the faintest clue at how truly awful his thinking process is:

"I can't honestly say he's a Jihadist, but there's a lot of things that are questionable," Walters said. "The whole birth certificate controversy. From what I've read, there's no proof Obama isn't a Muslim. And I don't believe there's any racism [in the billboard]. I think that should be a question asked to any president who -- they have some questionable backgrounds."

You know, from what I've read, there is no proof that Ronald Reagan, Lenny Dykstra, 50 cent, Barbara Streisand, Rush Limbaugh, Winnine the Pooh, Sean Connery, George Bush (either of them), or Lane Kiffin are not Muslims. Have you read anything proving that?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I wonder if this guy has even the faintest clue at how truly awful his thinking process is:

"I can't honestly say he's a Jihadist, but there's a lot of things that are questionable," Walters said. "The whole birth certificate controversy. From what I've read, there's no proof Obama isn't a Muslim. And I don't believe there's any racism [in the billboard]. I think that should be a question asked to any president who -- they have some questionable backgrounds."

You know, from what I've read, there is no proof that Ronald Reagan, Lenny Dykstra, 50 cent, Barbara Streisand, Rush Limbaugh, Winnine the Pooh, Sean Connery, George Bush (either of them), or Lane Kiffin are not Muslims. Have you read anything proving that?
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Lawgator im gonna need you to prove that your not muslim as well. I have no reason to believe that you are but just mail me your birth certificate so i can feel better:)
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Yeah we did, they were the ones that were flying in the wrong frickin direction. Remember these planes turned around in the air. It's not like they hit the towers on the way to the original destination. As soon as the planes turned around we should have responded like we did 68 times the year before in less than 20 min and had planes in the air after them.
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But when the order came to ground the air fleet, planes were turning in every direction to get to the airport they were told to go. What would have happened if one of those planes had an emergency and turned around because of that?

What would you purpose, that if we had gone after one of the planes that crashed into the various places, to do to that plane?
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Yeah we did, they were the ones that were flying in the wrong frickin direction. Remember these planes turned around in the air. It's not like they hit the towers on the way to the original destination. As soon as the planes turned around we should have responded like we did 68 times the year before in less than 20 min and had planes in the air after them.
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Do you know anything about aircraft flying around in the US?*Do you know how they're tracked.
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VOLS INC. said:
I think most that think this don't mean that we think bush planned the attacks, it's more pointed to his administration. I've been very critical of bush and ill admit that not all of it is fair criticism but thats because he is the face. TO me bush was a puppet, I think chaney and rumsfeld were more responsible for most of these issues. Bush just had to take the fall. Not that he wasn't involved, but he wasn't soley responsible for anything. His stupidity is how they were able to take advantage of him. To put it in football terms it's kind of like coaching the oakland raiders. Al davis is making all the decisions behind the scenes but the coach is the face of the team, and will get the credit or take the fall
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You don't think Bush planned it, you just can't wait till he dies and takes his rightful place in hell. :eek:k:
 
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Firefighters are always experts in engineering, demolition, and material science. Also, it's a good idea to totally ignore the effects of a 150 ton object ramming into something at 500mph. That wouldn't factor into a building falling down.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Has anyone ever found out why our air defense failed us so miserably that day. I mean what the retired firefighter said is the truth, It's fact. Just one year prior they responded to 68 emergencies in less than 20 min but yet on 911 these guys were asleep on the job. Somethings not adding up that's all im saying
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What is rather funny is that you can give the benefit of the doubt in the 9/11 truther cases but you dismiss outright the claims of the birthers and those that claim Obama is a secret Muslim. Why is that? There is about as much credible evidence for one as there is the other.

For the record I think they are both trash but it is rather disingenuous to blast someone else for their conspiracy theories while holding and defending your own.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Well we did ground every plane that was flying in the US that day and amazing feat. Plus just how much explaining would we have had to do if the Air Force started shooting down civilian airplanes? Remember just how many airplanes fly daily in the US. Do we have a big enough Air Force to get to every single plane that was flying that day? We did not know which ones were hi-jacked and which ones were not. Thats alot of planes to monitor at one time.
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exxactly. in the past when planes had been hijacked the terrorists let the passengers live and did not fly the planes into buildings. there would have been no justification for shooting those planes down before they hit the towers.
 
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