Any car salesmen in the house?

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VolStrom said:
I'm close to buying a new car and I don't trade cars like some people do underwear, so it's been a while since I've bought one. I have no desire to finance it, so their normal hidden charges won't apply to me. I'm also not going to trade a car in so what I'm looking for is I give them money and they give me the car kind of deal.

Sounds like maybe an invoice deal plus any rebates might be the best I can expect without a big long drawn out battle. I suppose I can just lead them on in the finance game and pay it off before the first payment is due.

I really despise car negotiations. I've heard that the end of the month is a good time to get the best deal since they are trying to meet quotas?
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I finance when it's zero to 2% and will ride that out because I can make more money with my money. I've also taken the normal rate at whatever term because they were offering an extra $1000 or so off for financing, so took their money then paid it off.

I usually weigh all the options and run the numbers so I know what deal I want before I go in.
 
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If it is an in stock unit, the end of the month is a great time to shop. I have seen deals get done that would not get done at the start of the month. However, if they have to go get the car, it doesn't help unless it delivers that month.

I can understand about not liking negotiations. I'm not exactly crazy about it myself. I will say this, if
your salesperson is nice, do be nice back. I go to bat for people who are nice to me, and seem like nice people. People who are rude throughout the entire process, make me hope they walk out just so I can be done with them. I still give everyone top notch service, but I want to tell some people that you can be nice and still get a great deal.
 
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VolStrom said:
I'm close to buying a new car and I don't trade cars like some people do underwear, so it's been a while since I've bought one. I have no desire to finance it, so their normal hidden charges won't apply to me. I'm also not going to trade a car in so what I'm looking for is I give them money and they give me the car kind of deal.

Sounds like maybe an invoice deal plus any rebates might be the best I can expect without a big long drawn out battle. I suppose I can just lead them on in the finance game and pay it off before the first payment is due.

I really despise car negotiations. I've heard that the end of the month is a good time to get the best deal since they are trying to meet quotas?
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There are the "no haggle" places like Carmax and Friendship dealerships.

Supposedly they're putting the bottom dollar prices on their cars to begin with.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
Appreciate the input all. Except for the guy who told me to bend over.

I'll probably stick with my current vehicle for another year or two and then upgrade.
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Your current car will never be worth more than it is now. Paying interest on a car as it depreciates in hopes of "saving money" is a fool's game. Especially if something major breaks.

Run your car by Carmax as they have been paying fair and better money lately for inventory. They'll give you a bid with no obligation to buy from them. Will give you an idea of actual cash value on your current ride.
 
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goldenvol said:
There are the "no haggle" places like Carmax and Friendship dealerships.

Supposedly they're putting the bottom dollar prices on their cars to begin with.
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No they dont. They just don't haggle. Only milk toast schleps buy from CarMax. They charge as much as anybody. If you like dealing with best buy like sales force, it's your place.
 
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FIL just retired and is in the hunt for a new car but it's not a burning need. I pity whoever he comes across on the sales floor. He thoroughly researches pricing and models, and said he has no problem spending four hours to save a thousand bucks.
 
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VolStrom said:
So if I'm going to pay cash for a new vehicle and not trade anything in, what is my best negotiating tactic?
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Internet shopping. Identify a few cars already in your price range that you would buy. Your best tactic is letting them know you are willing and able. Act like a dbag, get treated like a d-bags.

Most volume dealers are trying to give away cars. Look at the ads. I promise you, very few, if any, are making the kind of money most there idiots on here think. Competition regulates the market.
 
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Roustabout said:
Internet shopping. Identify a few cars already in your price range that you would buy. Your best tactic is letting them know you are willing and able. Act like a dbag, get treated like a d-bags.

Most volume dealers are trying to give away cars. Look at the ads. I promise you, very few, if any, are making the kind of money most there idiots on here think. Competition regulates the market.
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Competition and supply/demand. The lower a car is in demand vs availability, the less profit you'll pay for it.
 
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I gotta question about the extended bumper to bumper warranty the dealership offers. I got it for my cherokee its 100,000 and covers everything but added about $10 to my monthly payment. Is it a good idea or should I get one through Dodge or somewhere else?
 
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bignewt said:
I gotta question about the extended bumper to bumper warranty the dealership offers. I got it for my cherokee its 100,000 and covers everything but added about $10 to my monthly payment. Is it a good idea or should I get one through Dodge or somewhere else?
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I usually don't go for any extra warranty, but on a Chrysler product it's not a bad idea. Don't forget that everything is negotiable. Get them to come off the price by a couple hundred dollars or more.
 
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Wow, your making this much too complicated. The only car's I've purchased from a dealer were new ones or those provided by my company....I've always paid cash for my cars...I've always sold my cars to private parties...and much of this was done before the internet, comparing prices by phone or by driving from one dealer to another.

My 'nice' or fun car to drive was typically an old MG or Jaguar I would keep to satisfy that urge.
 
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Nerd-Vol said:
I usually don't go for any extra warranty, but on a Chrysler product it's not a bad idea. Don't forget that everything is negotiable. Get them to come off the price by a couple hundred dollars or more.
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I've thought about getting into the car sales business.
 
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bignewt said:
I gotta question about the extended bumper to bumper warranty the dealership offers. I got it for my cherokee its 100,000 and covers everything but added about $10 to my monthly payment. Is it a good idea or should I get one through Dodge or somewhere else?
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Extended service contracts like warranties are NEVER bumper to bumper. $10 per month sounds cheap. Make sure you know what you're getting. What it covers, what it doesn't and who backs it.
 
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Nerd-Vol said:
I usually don't go for any extra warranty, but on a Chrysler product it's not a bad idea. Don't forget that everything is negotiable. Get them to come off the price by a couple hundred dollars or more.
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Gotta tell ya Nerd, if I roll in that there undercarriage protection plan, why I can save ya some big bucks Nerd... you betch-ya it's a good deal right there... yes sir-ree.
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VolStrom said:
So if I'm going to pay cash for a new vehicle and not trade anything in, what is my best negotiating tactic?
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I used a variance of this method when buying a used car. Do not walk into a dealership and "haggle" the price. The salesmen do this everyday and are probably much better at it than you. I called several dealers on used car with approximately the same miles and make and had them working against each other. When I got the price I wanted (final price excluding sales tax), I rented a car to Huntsville, gave them a check, and was out the door in under 30 minutes. Some folks I know will even get the car shipped to them if the distance is to far. It would be even easier purchasing a new car. I will never again walk into a dealership to negotiate a price. It's better done over the phone where you have all the leverage.

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bignewt said:
I gotta question about the extended bumper to bumper warranty the dealership offers. I got it for my cherokee its 100,000 and covers everything but added about $10 to my monthly payment. Is it a good idea or should I get one through Dodge or somewhere else?
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Who is it through?
 
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Biopsyman said:
I would think higher end cars are better to sell as you dealing with most of the time people with money
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There's all kinds at every spectrum of financial status.

The older I get the more reward I find from helping a recent college grad or E3 get there first car on their own.
 
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bignewt said:
Through Jeep, at least I got it through the dealership.
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That doesn't mean it's a factory warranty. You should have a copy of the warranty plan. If it's a factory Keep warranty it will say "Chrysler" or Jeep on the policy.
 
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txbo said:
There's all kinds at every spectrum of financial status.

The older I get the more reward I find from helping a recent college grad or E3 get there first car on their own.
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I just bought my first car on my own recently. Being a business major, I understood the entire process, and I had fun negotiating.
 
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