Any opinions on Johnny Majors comments

#26
#26
Originally posted by Liper@Nov 8, 2005 12:12 AM
Couple things Majors said:

1 - Fulmer has no idea what it takes to build up a program.  He inherited what Majors and his staff built.

2 - It's tough to fire assistants, but it needs to be done.  The implication seemed to be that CPF would not do it.

3 - The head coach is responsible for players not executing.  They teach them, M-F, what they ultimately spit out on game day.

4 - Fulmer doesn't have to same values or upbringing as Majors.  Majors wouldn't even comment on Fulmer!

5 - Special teams are something that is intricately taught, but is more or less paid lip service by most everyone these days.

6 - Randy Sanders is a good guy and a scapegoat.

That's some of it.
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Here are my responses:

1 The Vols were 5-6 during the 1988 season, the year before Phil Fulmer became OC. In 1989, the Vols finished 11-1 in Phil's first season as OC. The next 3 seasons, the Vols won 9 games each season. The first time during Johnny's time as HC that had happened. Usually, Johnny followed a 9-win season with 6- or 7-win season. Johnny won 10+ games only 2 times during his 16 seasons at UT. Fulmer has accomplished that feat 8 times during his 13 seasons.

Fulmer's fist season as HC, the Vols won 10. Then 8, 11, 10, 11, and 13. In his 6th full season as head coach, with his own recruits, he did what Johnny never did at Tennessee... won a national championship.

2 Fulmer is too loyal... Sometimes its a good quality and sometimes its a liability.

3 I agree

4 My belief is that Fulmer has a better value system than Majors.

5 Special teams took a backseat at Tennessee the day Johnny Majors got rid of George Cafego. Majors is not the first bitter former coach at UT.

6 Randy Sanders may be a good guy, but the results are continually getting worse. Scapegoat? Comes with the job.

All in all, I think Johnny is kicking a man when he is down. [insert sarcasm] Great values, right.
 
#27
#27
Originally posted by allvol@Nov 8, 2005 12:31 PM
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Johnny's racial comments in the locker room cost him his job.
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I am glad somebody else said that, I thought I was the only one. Evidenced by our "collapse" vs. Penn State.
 
#28
#28
I think we ought to bronze Johnny and put him at the entrance to the stadium. Quick.
And I LIKE him!
 
#29
#29
Originally posted by allvol@Nov 8, 2005 12:31 PM
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Johnny's racial comments in the locker room cost him his job.
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I know that happened, but I don't think it cost him his job. It was a compilation of things, from what I know:

1 - Fiesta Bowl race card
2 - Health
3 - Attitude toward UT about contract
4 - Badmouthing program
5 - Pissing off boosters
6 - Losing to ARK and SC in '92
7 - Dickey afraid of losing Fulmer
8 - "Conduct generally unbecoming" over time
9 - Running off good assistant coaches and future replacements
10 - Couldn't beat BAMA with better teams
 
#30
#30
Originally posted by Liper@Nov 8, 2005 1:19 PM
I know that happened, but I don't think it cost him his job.  It was a compilation of things, from what I know:

1 - Fiesta Bowl race card
2 - Health
3 - Attitude toward UT about contract
4 - Badmouthing program
5 - Pissing off boosters
6 - Losing to ARK and SC in '92
7 - Dickey afraid of losing Fulmer
8 - "Conduct generally unbecoming" over time
9 - Running off good assistant coaches and future replacements
10 - Couldn't beat BAMA with better teams
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good list
 
#31
#31
Originally posted by Liper@Nov 8, 2005 2:19 PM
I know that happened, but I don't think it cost him his job.  It was a compilation of things, from what I know:

1 - Fiesta Bowl race card
2 - Health
3 - Attitude toward UT about contract
4 - Badmouthing program
5 - Pissing off boosters
6 - Losing to ARK and SC in '92
7 - Dickey afraid of losing Fulmer
8 - "Conduct generally unbecoming" over time
9 - Running off good assistant coaches and future replacements
10 - Couldn't beat BAMA with better teams
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11. Jack Daniels Tn whiskey
 
#32
#32
Originally posted by Liper@Nov 8, 2005 1:12 AM
Couple things Majors said:

1 - Fulmer has no idea what it takes to build up a program.  He inherited what Majors and his staff built.

2 - It's tough to fire assistants, but it needs to be done.  The implication seemed to be that CPF would not do it.

3 - The head coach is responsible for players not executing.  They teach them, M-F, what they ultimately spit out on game day.

4 - Fulmer doesn't have to same values or upbringing as Majors.  Majors wouldn't even comment on Fulmer!

5 - Special teams are something that is intricately taught, but is more or less paid lip service by most everyone these days.

6 - Randy Sanders is a good guy and a scapegoat.

That's some of it.
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I might as well comment on the above as well.

1. Sour grapes.
2. Johnny is right.
3. Johnny is right.
4. Johnny is an idiot.
5. Johnny is right.
6. Johnny is an idiot.
 
#33
#33
Majors is bitter cause no would would treat him like he thought he deserved "Like a God".

The way he was done may have been wrong but it was time for nim to go just as its time for him to SHUT UP! By running his mouth he has done more to hurt the program than anyone else!
 
#35
#35
Originally posted by Liper@Nov 8, 2005 11:13 AM
You know, I was never a huge fan of majors, but I liked a lot of what I heard on the radio.  It's been a while since I've heard his Majors-isms.

But he definitely seems to grasp the fundamental aspects of discipline, teaching, training, etc.
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And laying on the ball with the lead.
 
#36
#36
Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 8, 2005 8:27 AM
I know who you are ! Your name is Backyard Burger. Nicknamed "Ham" since you have ham shaped buttocks.

Right?  :birgits_giggle:
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Damnit!!

If you're hispanic or black, you got back. If you're white, suddenly you're Ned Beatty.

Once and for all, there's absolutely no correlation between how big my ass might physically be, and how big an ass someone might assininely think I seem.

That's just a coincendence.
 
#38
#38
Originally posted by allvol@Nov 8, 2005 12:31 PM
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Johnny's racial comments in the locker room cost him his job.
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Id heard that some years back. I blew it off as hear say...Now, who knows? :dunno:
 
#39
#39
Originally posted by allvol@Nov 8, 2005 12:45 PM
Here are my responses:

1 The Vols were 5-6 during the 1988 season, the year before Phil Fulmer became OC.  In 1989, the Vols finished 11-1 in Phil's first season as OC.  The next 3 seasons, the Vols won 9 games each season.  The first time during Johnny's time as HC that had happened.  Usually, Johnny followed a 9-win season with 6- or 7-win season.  Johnny won 10+ games only 2 times during his 16 seasons at UT.  Fulmer has accomplished that feat 8 times during his 13 seasons.

Fulmer's fist season as HC, the Vols won 10.  Then 8, 11, 10, 11, and 13.  In his 6th full season as head coach, with his own recruits, he did what Johnny never did at Tennessee... won a national championship.

2 Fulmer is too loyal... Sometimes its a good quality and sometimes its a liability.

3 I agree

4 My belief is that Fulmer has a better value system than Majors.

5 Special teams took a backseat at Tennessee the day Johnny Majors got rid of George Cafego.  Majors is not the first bitter former coach at UT.

6  Randy Sanders may be a good guy, but the results are continually getting worse.  Scapegoat?  Comes with the job.

All in all, I think Johnny is kicking a man when he is down.  [insert sarcasm] Great values, right.
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You Know What They Say About Payback :devilsmoke:
 
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