Anyone see a trend??

[BigOrangeMojo]

Meanwhile Mullin is getting ready to hang at least half a hundred on us yearly with those Florida athletes in his system and we will try to recruit superior player than Georgia and Alabama so we can try to out execute them using the same system with a first year OC.

This isn't going to end well.

And where were all these people wanting a prostyle system when Fulmer was here?? Once he lost the recruiting edge, all you could hear in the stands were complaints about him being uninventive and wanting to "run it up the middle every play".

And does anyone realize that butch played power football??

When I think Power Football, I don't imagine lining up in the shotgun 3 inches from the endzone and throwing a fade, a slant, and an INT.

 

[TexasVolfan1]

What's funny is people don't even know what kind of offense we will run. What's even funnier is people hating on the spread offense, when 3 out of the 4 teams in the playoffs run the spread offense. Funniest of all, Mizzou ran for 433 yards against us out of the spread. Is 433 rushing yards not enough running it down your throat? Do not understand the hate for the spread offense. By all accounts the spread offense is the best offense for college football.

I think most of us want away from the cute MAC spread option offense that butch was trying to run and more of a power spread like Bama or auburn

 

[fla orange]

Groundem then poundem! Big O and D lines just wearem out.

 

[swampfoxfan]

How many of them will sign? Trey Smith is cutesy????

 

[TNHopeful505]

How many of them will sign? Trey Smith is cutesy????

No, just included the last two years of OL signees

 

[jeff1vol]

OL Johncarlo Valentin - 6-3 330
OL Darian Kinnard - 6-6, 315
DT Siaki Ika - 6-3 360
DL Christian Barmore - 6-6, 290
OL Jerome Carvin - 6-4, 305
DE Coynis Miller - 6-3, 280
JUCO OL Chase Brown - 6-5, 315
DT LeDarrius Cox - 6-4, 300
JUCO OL Dwayne Wallace - 6-5 330
JUCO OL Jahmir Johnson - 6-5, 290
OL Darnell Wright - 6-6, 275
OL Wanya Morris 6-5, 265
OL Trente Jones 6-5, 293


Compare to the following:
Marcus Tatum - 6-6, 254
Nathan Niehaus - 6-6, 255
Ryan Johnson - 6-6, 275
Riley Locklear - 6-5, 285
K'Rojhn Calbert - 6-6, 285
Trey Smith - 6'5, 305


FINALLY, we are getting away from this cutesy "infallible" MAC Spread offense, and we are playing some "Run it down your throat" "dominating the lines" football.

Notice that Butch actually recruited a LINEMAN at 255 lbs, and the SMALLEST Pruitt has offered so far (at least that I've seen) is 265, and he is a HIGH SCHOOL JUNIOR.

I cannot tell you how excited I am to see us offering some guys that are going to get us back to playing SEC power football on BOTH sides of the ball!

Size is great, but they need agility too. I can clearly remember everyone *****ing about Fulmer's "fat, non-athletic OL's that were unable to pull, etc." Then we went smaller and more athletic with Butch and that sucks too.
Hopefully... the big boys that JP is recruiting can run too.

 

[MiramarVol]

The issue was all the cross-position play that the staff did. I player can't come in and learn every position on the line while excelling at his true position with limited snaps.

 

[landscapingvol]

What's funny is people don't even know what kind of offense we will run. What's even funnier is people hating on the spread offense, when 3 out of the 4 teams in the playoffs run the spread offense. Funniest of all, Mizzou ran for 433 yards against us out of the spread. Is 433 rushing yards not enough running it down your throat? Do not understand the hate for the spread offense. By all accounts the spread offense is the best offense for college football.

Oklahoma has had several great power running backs and a running game the last several years, don't confuse Baker Mayfield running around as a true spread offense. They more than have the ability to line up in a pro set and run the ball if necessary as does Clemson. Georgia and Alabama do not run spread offenses. Under Jones, UT didn't even have the capability of lining up in a pro set under center and running the ball in short yardage situations and that is the point. The fact that UT couldn't stop Mizzou is hardly damning evidence to defend Jones' scheme. What decent running team did UT stop? Ga Tech ran for 600 yards against UT, should we switch to the triple option?

 

[TNHopeful505]

The issue was all the cross-position play that the staff did. I player can't come in and learn every position on the line while excelling at his true position with limited snaps.

Exactly. And my reasoning for making the post was this:

1) We are desperately trying for depth.
2) We are not taking projects or guys who need to get in the weight room (hence the listing of Niehaus and Tatum)
3) These are not guys build for strictly agility or just to hold a block for a second or two, these are sizable humans who are being recruited to make holes.

Just glad to see a change in scheme back to SEC football

 

[Jackcrevol]

I like the enthusiasm. it takes size and talent. depth too.

i do like how Satan runs an ocassional QB draw or schemes with mobile qb. keeping tenants of the spread have real benefits. Bammer always struggles with read. But, youve got to be able to line up under center.

 

[tnmarktx]

Oklahoma has had several great power running backs and a running game the last several years, don't confuse Baker Mayfield running around as a true spread offense. They more than have the ability to line up in a pro set and run the ball if necessary as does Clemson. Georgia and Alabama do not run spread offenses. Under Jones, UT didn't even have the capability of lining up in a pro set under center and running the ball in short yardage situations and that is the point. The fact that UT couldn't stop Mizzou is hardly damning evidence to defend Jones' scheme. What decent running team did UT stop? Ga Tech ran for 600 yards against UT, should we switch to the triple option?

Oklahoma does not run out of pro sets. They run out of the air raid. Alabama does run a spread offense. We ran more under center this year, kind of like running out of a single back pro set. How well did that work for us. Running the ball has to do with good Oline play, no matter what offense you run. Thinking you can't run the ball successfully out of the spread is just plain stupid.

 

[GBO25]

Meanwhile Mullin is getting ready to hang at least half a hundred on us yearly with those Florida athletes in his system and we will try to recruit superior player than Georgia and Alabama so we can try to out execute them using the same system with a first year OC.

This isn't going to end well.

And where were all these people wanting a prostyle system when Fulmer was here?? Once he lost the recruiting edge, all you could hear in the stands were complaints about him being uninventive and wanting to "run it up the middle every play".

And does anyone realize that butch played power football??

Hey, Butch? Is that you? Time for you to move on..

 

[sjt18]

I give Jones credit for one thing. He had a plan and a philosophy... lived by it... died by it.

He believed that the finesse blocking used in his system that sometimes worked against better teams would work in the SEC. Instead of aggression, he depended on the "fine points of playing winning football". OL's had to do it "perfect" or else it didn't work. Instead of playing fast and aggressive... his OL was consistently hesitant and passive.

You simply can't expect college players to master those "fine details" well enough to succeed against SEC D's in the time they have.


Pruitt is going the other way. He won't favor the scalpel like Jones... he'll use an ax.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I give Jones credit for one thing. He had a plan and a philosophy... lived by it... died by it.

He believed that the finesse blocking used in his system that sometimes worked against better teams would work in the SEC. Instead of aggression, he depended on the "fine points of playing winning football". OL's had to do it "perfect" or else it didn't work. Instead of playing fast and aggressive... his OL was consistently hesitant and passive.

You simply can't expect college players to master those "fine details" well enough to succeed against SEC D's in the time they have.


Pruitt is going the other way. He won't favor the scalpel like Jones... he'll use an ax.

We need more players like Trey Smith then or get our current O line guys to be more agressive. I count 9 scholarship OL on our current roster that our available for next year unless someone transfers or cannot play due to injury. Chance Hall played with a mean streak at times, does anyone know if he will be healthy enough to play next year?

 

[Tnmitch]

Sweet getting some big boys

 

[casetopia]

Butch didn't play power anything except maybe pocket pool.

 

[WestTnHawk]

Just had to toss this out there... Just because you run spread doesn't mean it's finesse by any means. Clemson, Bama, and OU all run a majority spread offense. I'm all for dominating the LOS, it's how you win ball games, but to insinuate that spread offenses arent effective is bunk. If your QB is your best player on O, which he usually should be, every play goes through him. Even if you have Peyton in the gun, the plus 1 you get tends to favor the O. For you old heads, imagine the single wing in effect. Malzhan does a fine job of running the ball physically out of the spread. To sum it up, if we run 11, 12, 21, or 22 personnel I just hope it plays to our talents abilities.