Anyone used a Ouija Board?

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If a board spirit hands out one accurate football score, that's all I'm asking about going forward. It's up to it to follow the cosmic balance standards.
 
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For the same reason that whatever God you believe in doesn't end the world this second since he/she can see the future and already knows all the people going to heaven/hell.

Free will.

The best way to explain it is like this, as I've read many different things based on it and it seems to make the most sense to me at least.

What you wear today isn't likely to have an enormous impact on the world. Sure you could wear a Klan uniform to a Black Panthers rally but for the most part something that small doesn't matter.

Now, who you marry? That's a bigger deal. For all we know your kid might end up as president or curing cancer. Certain things in life, births, death, true love, etc. are much harder to influence by free will as they are supposed to happen on a cosmic balance scale.

Getting lottery numbers or knowing universal secrets isn't good for the cosmic balance of things, otherwise ever prayer would be answered, nobody would ever die, etc. Everything has a set of rules (hence me saying before, ask names of spirits. They cannot lie about their names, just how it is) and part of the rules are you don't alter a life that extremely unless it was meant to happen already.

By the same logic, anyone has access to these kinds of rituals and technology for things like this (computers do very well by measuring temp, radio interference, radiation, magnetic fields, etc. while doing it) so if everyone did it it would kind of defy the point of free will altogether.

Hell, I've had spirits flat tell me they wouldn't answer certain things. Asked why and said "We aren't allowed." One even said he'd get demoted.

Good stuff, Daloth.

I'd like to check one out.
 
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That is of course, until we did it again when I was a junior in high school. It was my brother and I again, just us this time. It was able to find out stuff about people we were texting or on the phone with. Again, they could've lied or changed clothes or done X or Y to make it seem right, but that seems a bit drastic.


so you asked your brother what color underwear he had on ?
 
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Or we could go with the simplier answer.

Then what's the point in the discussion if first hand accounts aren't good enough? Just because you can't get rich off of it doesn't mean it doesn't work. And just because it doesn't work 100% every time doesn't mean it doesn't work either, no different than a machine or anything else.

Plus, if there aren't things left we can't explain, we may as well just off ourselves as a species, because we have learned everything there is to know and life would have no meaning.
 
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so you asked your brother what color underwear he had on ?

Sure did, and had them ask mine as well. We went first even.

It would be sexist to not include all of us, and I would gladly see any guy's boxers for a few seconds to see girls in their panties as a reward.
 
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Then what's the point in the discussion if first hand accounts aren't good enough? Just because you can't get rich off of it doesn't mean it doesn't work. And just because it doesn't work 100% every time doesn't mean it doesn't work either, no different than a machine or anything else.

Plus, if there aren't things left we can't explain, we may as well just off ourselves as a species, because we have learned everything there is to know and life would have no meaning.

If first hand accounts are good enough, then you're going to be forced to take a ton of things as fact that I guarantee you don't think are real.

Plus there's tons of things we can't explain and/or haven't discovered yet, but that doesn't point to paranormal reasons why.
 
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If first hand accounts are good enough, then you're going to be forced to take a ton of things as fact that I guarantee you don't think are real.

Plus there's tons of things we can't explain and/or haven't discovered yet, but that doesn't point to paranormal reasons why.

And that's why we continue to do them, and research them, and study them so we can find an explanation. It doesn't have to be a supernatural reason, but it doesn't change the fact that it's gotten many things right in my life and on more than one separate instance.

Hell, I do stuff like that because I am a man of science. I love not being able to explain everything, its one reason I live to begin with. We used to explain volcanoes and lightning on gods and goddesses. Who's to say in fifty years we won't explain Ouija boards on electromagnetism and radioactive particles? But until then, first hand accounts are what we have. If you don't like them I can only hope you are never in the court system, because that's really all law is to begin with.
 
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And that's why we continue to do them, and research them, and study them so we can find an explanation. It doesn't have to be a supernatural reason, but it doesn't change the fact that it's gotten many things right in my life and on more than one separate instance.

Hell, I do stuff like that because I am a man of science. I love not being able to explain everything, its one reason I live to begin with. We used to explain volcanoes and lightning on gods and goddesses. Who's to say in fifty years we won't explain Ouija boards on electromagnetism and radioactive particles? But until then, first hand accounts are what we have. If you don't like them I can only hope you are never in the court system, because that's really all law is to begin with.

Your second paragraph was the exact point I was going to make. Many current scientific fields were once thought to be mystical, magic, paranormal, etc. It's a pretty arrogant stance to say that we as humans have developed an understanding of everything and that anything that defies a standard explanation must just be a load of crap. We wouldn't have advanced science nearly as far without having conversations about common experiences that we couldn't rationally explain.
 
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And that's why we continue to do them, and research them, and study them so we can find an explanation. It doesn't have to be a supernatural reason, but it doesn't change the fact that it's gotten many things right in my life and on more than one separate instance.

Hell, I do stuff like that because I am a man of science. I love not being able to explain everything, its one reason I live to begin with. We used to explain volcanoes and lightning on gods and goddesses. Who's to say in fifty years we won't explain Ouija boards on electromagnetism and radioactive particles? But until then, first hand accounts are what we have. If you don't like them I can only hope you are never in the court system, because that's really all law is to begin with.

I think we agree more than we don't.

However, to clarify on the first hand accounts, yes in the courts they have, but witness accounts are heavily scrutinized and put through the ringer and if they are not enough to "prove" something, they are basically ignored.
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