AP publishes photo of Marine's last moments, Sparks outrage

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Seems there are plenty of photos out there. I'd say the AP could probably locate one of a soldier whose parents do not protest to its publication.
 
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lawgator1 said:
To illustrate, in the most accurate manner possible, the reality of what is happening over there.
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So which of the following pictures illustrate, most accurately, what is happening in Afghanistan? A picture only captures a specific moment, situation, and/or place in time. OE, I couldn't agree more that war is hell and that everyone should support and respect our troops (and families) for their service and sacrifice... and I do. However, that doesn't mean the press should publish pictures (against the family's request) when it is not necessary.

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IBlvNTmWrk said:
So which of the following pictures illustrate, most accurately, what is happening in Afghanistan? A picture only captures a specific moment, situation, and/or place in time. OE, I couldn't agree more that war is hell and that everyone should support and respect our troops (and families) for their service and sacrifice... and I do. However, that doesn't mean the press should publish pictures (against the family's request) when it is not necessary.

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Every one of them...........

That is all I am saying.......

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OrangeEmpire said:

I wouldn't have to, the mother knew how great her son was. The country needs to know that also.

The burden of losing soldiers should not be limited to the family.

These are our soldiers who die for us. We need to honor them.
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That's a pretty twisted way to honor them don't you think. I've been around soldiers my entire adult life. If I asked a soldier "how can I honor you if you're killed in action?", I don't think a single one would answer, "Please take a photo of me while I'm dying. Then publish the picture in the newspaper against my family's wishes, so that everyone will "understand" the sacrifice I made for my country."

Regarding the pictures of soldiers in coffins and their families, I don't have a problem with that as long as they're anonymous or they have the family's consent. JMO
 
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LG and OE,

Both of you express a desire to honor the soldier and yet you would dishonor him not to listen to his families wishes. I am not against showing video of war but find someone whose family would want this.

You want realities of war? It extends beyond the battle field and it causes extreme harm to the family who does not want their private pain to be shared with the world just so someone THINKS they can get a point across.

or perhaps you fail to realize that their son just became a recruiting video for the very thing he died trying to defeat?
 
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I would have tried to explain to the father why I would want to publish the photo if he declined, but I wouldn't go against his wishes if he didn't want it out there. It's not like the picture in question is groundbreaking for anyone but the family involved. There are thousands of pictures and videos on the internet of both sides being killed and mutilated. Dumb move by the reporter in question.
 
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The kid died for his country. What more glorious death can there be? At least he'll be vividly remembered, unlike the thousands and thousand of his American brethren that met the same fate in the history of this nation.
 
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SWIL said:
The kid died for his country. What more glorious death can there be? At least he'll be vividly remembered, unlike the thousands and thousand of his American brethren that met the same fate in the history of this nation.
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I highly doubt any of us will be able to recall this poor kids name five years from now. This photo isn't helping him. I'd say a good way to honor him would be to observe any wishes he may have had. I'm no psychic, but I'd be willing to bet he'd prefer his family not to suffer after his passing. Oh well, to hell with that.
 
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Just speaking from my own perspective. If it were me, I'd want everyone to know of my sacrifice to my country.
 
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MontereyVol said:
LG and OE,

Both of you express a desire to honor the soldier and yet you would dishonor him not to listen to his families wishes. I am not against showing video of war but find someone whose family would want this.

You want realities of war? It extends beyond the battle field and it causes extreme harm to the family who does not want their private pain to be shared with the world just so someone THINKS they can get a point across.

or perhaps you fail to realize that their son just became a recruiting video for the very thing he died trying to defeat?
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well said
 
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SWIL said:
The kid died for his country. What more glorious death can there be? At least he'll be vividly remembered, unlike the thousands and thousand of his American brethren that met the same fate in the history of this nation.
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The family should get to make this decision. I understand your thought, but when the family has asked that it not be published, there is no "honor" in doing so.
 
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I cannot fault journalists for doing their job. The underlying and unfortunate fact is that the end reader wants to see the photo, i.e. it sells. If the end reader chose not to buy the product, then there would be no story here.

Gate's makes a valid point in saying that publishing the photo is indecent...so is war. There is not much decent about war and any decency that was left in the Afghanistan theatre is crumbling by the day.
 
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therealUT said:
I cannot fault journalists for doing their job. The underlying and unfortunate fact is that the end reader wants to see the photo, i.e. it sells. If the end reader chose not to buy the product, then there would be no story here.

Gate's makes a valid point in saying that publishing the photo is indecent...so is war. There is not much decent about war and any decency that was left in the Afghanistan theatre is crumbling by the day.
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:hi:

Good to see you back!

Hope every thing is well!
 
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If the press were being even handed in reporting facts these days instead of resorting to sensationalism to boost ratings and one sided editorializing to push their agenda, I would still object to the printing of this young man's last moments (I have a son in the military and confess I have NOT seen the photo in question). The fact that they have not practiced honesty in a couple of decades or more just makes their choice more cowardly and despicable!
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
For a public that thinks they are shat...... absolutely.
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The vast majority of the public doesn not think they are shat, and for the scum that do these photos only provide propoganda material to exploit.

The families should have a say in whether or not these photos get published. It's as simple as that. I can't think of a good reason....legally, morally, or ethically as to why this shouldn't be the case.
 
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Bottom line honor our fallen heroes. The AP is looking out for it's bottom line nothing more. Real journalism is dead.
 
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I still go with what LG and TRUT said......

People need to know what our guys and gals are doing for them.

Soldiers and their families should not have to carry this burden alone. The job is thankless to begin with.

We, the public, need to change our attitudes toward them.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
I still go with what LG and TRUT said......

People need to know what our guys and gals are doing for them.

Soldiers and their families should not have to carry this burden alone. The job is thankless to begin with.

We, the public, need to change our attitudes toward them.
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You saw him in death, you saw nor heard what he has done in life. You want people to know? Then where is the beginning of this story. All you know is the end.
 
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MontereyVol said:
You saw him in death, you saw nor heard what he has done in life. You want people to know? Then where is the beginning of this story. All you know is the end.
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I'm not arguing that.

I am arguing that people need to know what our service members and their families go through.

Start from the recruiting station and basic.

Simply put, all I want is for the public to love on these people and their families and not take them for granted.
 
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rjd970 said:
The vast majority of the public doesn not think they are shat, and for the scum that do these photos only provide propoganda material to exploit.

The families should have a say in whether or not these photos get published. It's as simple as that. I can't think of a good reason....legally, morally, or ethically as to why this shouldn't be the case.
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oh shat.....i can not believe that we have agreed twice now (maybe good luck for Saturday, huh)
 
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