Arizona Election Audit

You heard words. Good for you. Then you assigned your own bias to what you assumed Trump meant. Your opinion isn’t proof of jack squat Sep so back to the bench for you.

It's not just my "opinion", words have meaning. I think if I was a Trump nut hugger id want to try and revise the history of what happened between the general election and Bidens inauguration too. Can't blame you for that, it was a thinly veiled assault on a foundation of our Constitutional Republic.

If you don't have the intellectual honesty to realize that Trump was pressuring the Georgia SOS to gin up a victory, then you're delusional.

Now, back toy your regularly scheduled spin.
 
Just countering the othering that goes on here. I'm a G_d-fearing, gun loving, military-supporting family man who thinks we can all do better and show each other a little more respect.
And yet you are still “othering” about “broken people” in the other thread 🙄
 
It's not just my "opinion", words have meaning. I think if I was a Trump nut hugger id want to try and revise the history of what happened between the general election and Bidens inauguration too. Can't blame you for that, it was a thinly veiled assault on a foundation of our Constitutional Republic.

If you don't have the intellectual honesty to realize that Trump was pressuring the Georgia SOS to gin up a victory, then you're delusional.

Now, back toy your regularly scheduled spin.



Let's establish some facts about Fulton County and GA.

Here are a few quotes from the article. You can see the entire report and you will see there were many many issues that Raffensperger knew about from his own inspector that he hired. Yet he said it was a perfect election in GA and there was absolutely no fraud at all
A contractor handpicked by Raffensperger to monitor election counting in Fulton County wrote a 29-page memo back in November outlining the "massive" election integrity failures and mismanagement that he witnessed in the Atlanta-area's election centers.

The bombshell report, constructed like a minute-by-minute diary, cited a litany of high-risk problems such as the double-counting of votes, insecure storage of ballots, possible violations of voter privacy, the mysterious removal of election materials at a vote collection warehouse, and the suspicious movement of "too many" ballots on Election Day.

Georgia investigator's notes reveal 'massive' election integrity problems in Atlanta

We all remember this happened in Fulton County Election night

It's been discovered that Gabe Sterling negotiated a deal that basically gave him a $144,000 pay raise to implement Dominion machines in the state of GA. Is it really that surprising to see Gabe so staunchly defending the election when he's the one who implemented it?
 
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It's not just my "opinion", words have meaning. I think if I was a Trump nut hugger id want to try and revise the history of what happened between the general election and Bidens inauguration too. Can't blame you for that, it was a thinly veiled assault on a foundation of our Constitutional Republic.

If you don't have the intellectual honesty to realize that Trump was pressuring the Georgia SOS to gin up a victory, then you're delusional.

Now, back toy your regularly scheduled spin.
Trump was pressuring him to investigate what Trump believed to be fraud. That’s different than trying to get the guy to make things up. Trump NEVER said to just make something up. You’re overreaching as usual.
 
And yet you are still “othering” about “broken people” in the other thread 🙄

No, there's a distinct difference.

I am not creating or promoting parameters for separation with intent to dehumanize. I am lamenting my brother and sister humans who are choosing to behave poorly regardless of any group affiliation.
 
Trump was pressuring him to investigate what Trump believed to be fraud. That’s different than trying to get the guy to make things up. Trump NEVER said to just make something up. You’re overreaching as usual.

"I need 11,000 votes" doesn't sound like a request to root out fraud, It sounds like a request to get him 11,000 votes.

If Biden had said that, you guys would have absolutely melted down.

A little intellectual hosesty would serve you well.
 
"I need 11,000 votes" doesn't sound like a request to root out fraud, It sounds like a request to get him 11,000 votes.

If Biden had said that, you guys would have absolutely melted down.

A little intellectual hosesty would serve you well.
Says the guy who just said, “It sounds like…”. That’s called an opinion. Maybe you’re the one who needs to bone up on some intellectual honesty.
 
Says the guy who just said, “It sounds like…”. That’s called an opinion. Maybe you’re the one who needs to bone up on some intellectual honesty.

It sounds like you're grasping at straws because you've planted your flag in a turd, now that you realize that - you're trying to say the words we all heard were taken out of context (they weren't) or our interpretation is biased (it isn't). All you're doing at this point is trying to save face and you look ridiculous.

No rational person can make a cogent argument that Trump wasnt pressuring the Georgia SOS to gin up 11,000 votes.

And here you are, proving me absolutely right.
 
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It sounds like you're grasping at straws because you've planted your flag in a turd, now that you realize that - you're trying to say the words we all heard were taken out of context (they weren't) or our interpretation is biased (it isn't). All you're doing at this point is trying to save face and you look ridiculous.

No rational person can make a cogent argument that Trump wasnt pressuring the Georgia SOS to gin up 11,000 votes.

And here you are, proving me absolutely right.
Where’s the proof he wanted the guy to make something up to get the additional votes? You’re the fool grasping there Sep. You claimed proof of something that is nothing more than an opinion. You’re Adam Schiff level now.

Edit: Nice touch telling me your own opinion isn’t bias. Sure, I absolutely believe that. Lol
 
Where’s the proof he wanted the guy to make something up to get the additional votes? You’re the fool grasping there Sep. You claimed proof of something that is nothing more than an opinion. You’re Adam Schiff level now.

Edit: Nice touch telling me your own opinion isn’t bias. Sure, I absolutely believe that. Lol

Keep dancing, you're not convincing anyone.

Trump: "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state"

Trump: “The people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, that you’ve recalculated,."

Raffensperger: “Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong."

Trump: "There’s no way I lost Georgia. There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes."

Trump pressured Raffensperger and his general counsel, Ryan Germany, when they refused his demands, such as locating thousands of ballots he baselessly alleged were destroyed.

Trump: “That’s a criminal offense and you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer.”


Fast forward to April - Raffensperger is demoted from State Election Board for not commiting the fraud Trump pressured him to commit. It's hard to understand why you keep coming back for more, it's hilarious, but it's hard to understand. The words and implications were crystal clear to anyone who understands the English language and how a guy like Trump gets sh*t done. Again, if this were a dem, you'd have had a stroke listening to that tape.

Keep digging though, I'll keep a spotlight on you floundering for as long as you're game.
 
Keep dancing, you're not convincing anyone.

Trump: "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state"

Trump: “The people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, that you’ve recalculated,."

Raffensperger: “Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong."

Trump: "There’s no way I lost Georgia. There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes."

Trump pressured Raffensperger and his general counsel, Ryan Germany, when they refused his demands, such as locating thousands of ballots he baselessly alleged were destroyed.

Trump: “That’s a criminal offense and you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer.”


Fast forward to April - Raffensperger is demoted from State Election Board for not commiting the fraud Trump pressured him to commit. It's hard to understand why you keep coming back for more, it's hilarious, but it's hard to understand. The words and implications were crystal clear to anyone who understands the English language and how a guy like Trump gets sh*t done. Again, if this were a dem, you'd have had a stroke listening to that tape.

Keep digging though, I'll keep a spotlight on you floundering for as long as you're game.
Please keep on. It’s hilarious watching you claim your assumption of what Trump was thinking as proof. Out over your skis again Sep.
 
Please keep on. It’s hilarious watching you claim your assumption of what Trump was thinking as proof. Out over your skis again Sep.

And it's fun watching you relinquish any modicum of credibility you may have once held. It must be hard to hear the hollow thumping of your chest over your intellectual honesty being sucked out of the room.

I'd like to take credit for clowning you but the reality is that you're playing yourself and I'm just here holding the spotlight.
 
And it's fun watching you relinquish any modicum of credibility you may have once held. It must be hard to hear the hollow thumping of your chest over your intellectual honesty being sucked out of the room.

I'd like to take credit for clowning you but the reality is that you're playing yourself and I'm just here holding the spotlight.
Says the guy peddling opinion as some kind of proof. I would do a clown emoji for you but I’ll leave that to ND40. You’re earning them for sure. Oh, and I take a lack of credibility with you as a badge of honor.
 
And it's fun watching you relinquish any modicum of credibility you may have once held. It must be hard to hear the hollow thumping of your chest over your intellectual honesty being sucked out of the room.

I'd like to take credit for clowning you but the reality is that you're playing yourself and I'm just here holding the spotlight.
Hey, you see it one way and I see it another. I do enjoy our barbs back and forth but I want to change gears for just a moment as I know you’re in the insurance industry. Do you have any thoughts about the DOJ suing to stop the merger of Willis Towers Watson and Aon? I’m not sure what your role is so maybe that’s not even on your radar. Any thoughts?
 
Hey, you see it one way and I see it another. I do enjoy our barbs back and forth but I want to change gears for just a moment as I know you’re in the insurance industry. Do you have any thoughts about the DOJ suing to stop the merger of Willis Towers Watson and Aon? I’m not sure what your role is so maybe that’s not even on your radar. Any thoughts?

I don't know enough about the anti trust concerns to have an opinion.
 
Tough breaks in Michigan and Georgia this week @VolinWayne . Hey, at least you can count on cyber ninja to cook up some propaganda to keep the partisan fires stoked a little longer in Arizona. Six months later and these bozos are still counting...

Trump's Big Lie about 2020 results suffers legal and political blows in key swing states - CNNPolitics

I'm not sure what you are celebrating about in regards to the ruling in GA. The judge actually ruled in our favor again for the 5th time.
He also granted a request by the petitioners to add the individual members of the county election board as respondents in the lawsuit. He wrote in a footnote that the claims against the individual board members “may be barred by official immunity” but that “the record is not sufficiently developed to warrant such a conclusion.”



Judge allows Georgia ballot review case to proceed for now

 
For me it's not about reinstating Trump at this point. It's about exposing exactly what happened, how it happened and making the necessary changes to ensure it absolutely never happens again. I would like to see us go back to all paper ballots. No more voting machines.
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Technology is here to stay grandpa. There's actual proof that Trump pressured State officials to commit fraud and the DOJ to suspend the results of the election and pressure his VP into not certifying it; none that would demonstrate widespread voter fraud. But, it's about "exposing the truth" for you? Yes, you're very principled. 🙄
So you believe Trump attempted to commit fraud but no way anybody in the left would,.... keeping wearing those blue colored glasses
 
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So you believe Trump attempted to commit fraud but no way anybody in the left would,.... keeping wearing those blue colored glasses

Oh no, I absolutely do think the left is capable and would I just don't tink they had to in the 2020 general.

Both sides cheat to win, don't act like the right has the market cornered on integrity.

Also, how did you take that quote and infer that "I believe...that no way the left would?"
 
When's the next propaganda drop full of choppy sentences, misuse of the word patriot, and way more flag emoji than a sane person would ever use?
 
Oh no, I absolutely do think the left is capable and would I just don't tink they had to in the 2020 general.
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This is where I tend to fall.
However….the left outworked the right on this one and we’re definitely skirting the edges. It’s absolutely time to take steps to secure elections before we descend into outright fraud….which will become both the next step and the norm if it’s not prevented. To believe otherwise is naive.
 
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This is where I tend to fall.
However….the left outworked the right on this one and we’re definitely skirting the edges. It’s absolutely time to take steps to secure elections before we descend into outright fraud….which will become both the next step and the norm if it’s not prevented. To believe otherwise is naive.

Until we're presented with convincing evidence there was widespread fraud, I won't get my panties bunched up. The current voting system is so decentralized, it'd be impossible to have widespread fraud go undetected and kept quiet.

What we're witnessing here is sour grapes wherein the well was being poisoned with claims of fraud long BEFORE the election ever even started. The irony is that Trump talked about election fraud from the beginning and did nothing but try and "secure" the vote other than suppress and shorten voting windows.
 

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