Arizona Election Audit

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evillawyer said:
I haven't heard anything one this in sometime. Any soy sauce found on the ballots yet? Any rice DNA evidencing a Chinese origin?
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You know it's bad when a unqualified company, whose CEO spouted pro Donny partisan claims and who hired trump sycophants to find evidence of something they so dearly want to to be true - can't demonstrate evidence of fraud that won't collapse under its own inadequacy.

This is Q2.0 - but be sure to send in your 5X impact cash to the "billionaire" so he can stick it to the libs. LOL
 
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BreatheUT said:
Yes we do. Received mail in votes up to 7 days after the election. Mail out voting. Ballet harvesting. Rules changes that bypassed legislators.
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Ballot harvesting is legal in many states. Trump and his cronies killed the post office efficiency in his four years. Delivery times are much longer than they used to be. Many states accept late received ballots that are post marked by election day. Some up to 14 days after. You mean voting rule changes where the people voted by a ration of 2-1 to restore the voting rights of felons. Then legislature then added in the requirement of paying all fines and court costs thus throwing a financial road block in the way of people exercising this right.
 
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Septic said:
You know it's bad when a unqualified company, whose CEO spouted pro Donny partisan claims and who hired trump sycophants to find evidence of something they so dearly want to to be true - can't demonstrate evidence of fraud that won't collapse under its own inadequacy.

This is Q2.0 - but be sure to send in your 5X impact cash to the "billionaire" so he can stick it to the libs. LOL
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They supposedly are releasing a report sometime in early August. They are triple counting everything as they know this audit will receive far more scrutiny then any election ever has. I think it says a lot about the people running the show that they haven't allowed a lot of leaks like you liberals typically love to do. The county still has yet to release the routers that that the Senate has asked for months ago.

Of course I realize that none of this matters to you
 
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VolinWayne said:
They supposedly are releasing a report sometime in early August. They are triple counting everything as they know this audit will receive far more scrutiny then any election ever has. I think it says a lot about the people running the show that they haven't allowed a lot of leaks like you liberals typically love to do. The county still has yet to release the routers that that the Senate has asked for months ago.

Of course I realize that none of this matters to you
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Not allowing leaks? You've filled this thread with them.

LOL - were the first two counts not giving the desired results? How about quadruple counting them? My guess if the first two were done to the satisfaction of the Trump army, we'd be done and you guys can go ahead and claim what you're going to inevitably claim anyway.

I can't wait for August, hey - maybe you can make the case that the General Tsao's branded routers were responsible for coming up short?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Ballot harvesting is legal in many states. Trump and his cronies killed the post office efficiency in his four years. Delivery times are much longer than they used to be. Many states accept late received ballots that are post marked by election day. Some up to 14 days after. You mean voting rule changes where the people voted by a ration of 2-1 to restore the voting rights of felons. Then legislature then added in the requirement of paying all fines and court costs thus throwing a financial road block in the way of people exercising this right.
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What people are you referring to? Obviously there were more last minute changes or covid exceptions including same day registration and voting even after the normal registration grace periods had closed. Mail out voting with unclean voter logs.

I'm not going to go tit for tat on each state issue. It is common knowledge for instance Abrams had her hands all over Georgia. How she has been able to circumvent sound voting policy, I don't know off the top of my head but clearly there were loopholes the devious were able to exploit.
 
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BreatheUT said:
What people are you referring to? Obviously there were more last minute changes or covid exceptions including same day registration and voting even after the normal registration grace periods had closed. Mail out voting with unclean voter logs.

I'm not going to go tit for tat on each state issue. It is common knowledge for instance Abrams had her hands all over Georgia. How she has been able to circumvent sound voting policy, I don't know off the top of my head but clearly there were loopholes the devious were able to exploit.
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the citizens of florida. The rest of your statement is just fear mongering without any evidence.
 
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Septic said:
Not allowing leaks? You've filled this thread with them.

LOL - were the first two counts not giving the desired results? How about quadruple counting them? My guess if the first two were done to the satisfaction of the Trump army, we'd be done and you guys can go ahead and claim what you're going to inevitably claim anyway.

I can't wait for August, hey - maybe you can make the case that the General Tsao's branded routers were responsible for coming up short?
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I have provided updates on the progress of the audits which were provided to the public but you won't find these updates in mainstream media without their little lame clownish twist they put on it. A lot of my posts have also been to defend the integrity of the audit as it has been clear since day one the media could not attack the message but they would spend all their time attacking the messenger and attempting to set the stage to discredit what would be revealed in the report. What is hilarious is the fact that they have had cameras livestreaming every minute of the audit and yet the left is crying and saying there is no transparency. What a freaking joke.

As far as the triple counting goes you can read into that however you want. I'm not going to make any assumptions but I do appreciate the fact that they are taking their time and making sure it's done right and they are absolutely certain all of the numbers match up. I think they know that they are setting the bar for audits in other states if massive fraud is uncovered
 
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VolinWayne said:
I have provided updates on the progress of the audits which were provided to the public but you won't find these updates in mainstream media without their little lame clownish twist they put on it. A lot of my posts have also been to defend the integrity of the audit as it has been clear since day one the media could not attack the message but they would spend all their time attacking the messenger and attempting to set the stage to discredit what would be revealed in the report. What is hilarious is the fact that they have had cameras livestreaming every minute of the audit and yet the left is crying and saying there is no transparency. What a freaking joke.
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The only joke around here is that anyone is supposed to take this "audit" seriously. Bonus points for invoking the "mainstream media" boogyman.


VolinWayne said:
As far as the triple counting goes you can read into that however you want. I'm not going to make any assumptions but I do appreciate the fact that they are taking their time and making sure it's done right and they are absolutely certain all of the numbers match up. I think they know that they are setting the bar for audits in other states if massive fraud is uncovered
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I can't even... lol. Suddenly the "Z0nA aUdi7" crowd doesn't want to make assumptions. Pillars of objectivity, the lot of you.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
A whole lot of smoke there.
In my mind it’s all about the media. If was anywhere near honest anymore there be far fewer problems
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I remember when Walter Cronkite defined victory as defeat and changed the course of history. The media as an instrument to spread the news is fine; the media as an instrument to set policy rather than elected policy makers is not. When the media define and redefine "truth" they become propagandists for political policy, and that's unacceptable.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Ballot harvesting is legal in many states. Trump and his cronies killed the post office efficiency in his four years. Delivery times are much longer than they used to be. Many states accept late received ballots that are post marked by election day. Some up to 14 days after. You mean voting rule changes where the people voted by a ration of 2-1 to restore the voting rights of felons. Then legislature then added in the requirement of paying all fines and court costs thus throwing a financial road block in the way of people exercising this right.
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Does this mean you'd be OK if organizations of unknown ethics and methods started accepting payment, info, and issued car tags? Isn't it interesting that we require even hairdressers to be licensed, but would not extend that level of certification to fakes who collect ballots - maybe even completed ballots?
 
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AM64 said:
Does this mean you'd be OK if organizations of unknown ethics and methods started accepting payment, info, and issued car tags? Isn't it interesting that we require even hairdressers to be licensed, but would not extend that level of certification to fakes who collect ballots - maybe even completed ballots?
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I am fine with volunteers collecting ballots from the elderly who may not be mobile.

As for your question about car tags, I am surprised you wouldn't be in favor. I assume you are okay with private businesses running prisons. Anything that the government can do can be done better and more efficiently by private enterprise.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I am fine with volunteers collecting ballots from the elderly who may not be mobile.

As for your question about car tags, I am surprised you wouldn't be in favor. I assume you are okay with private businesses running prisons. Anything that the government can do can be done better and more efficiently by private enterprise.
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Actually, I lean more against private businesses running prisons. Get rid of patronage, public sector unions, job security beyond what private businesses offer, and run government more like a real company in general makes more sense. Accountability is the big issue, and privatizing operations still doesn't make an organization contracting government operations accountable to the user - either operationally or financially. Bureaucracies are bureaucracies - they just have different masters, and the "customer" isn't it.

I get your argument about volunteers helping the elderly, but ballot harvesting is a far bigger scale and there seems to be little security involved. That, in fact, is the whole problem with mail in voting - it is an end run around security measures in place for in person voting. The verification issue is lacking - who actually received a ballot, who actually completes the ballot - monitored at the polls but no verification with mail in voting, one ballot per voter (at least per trip) is insured at the polls - not so with ballot harvesting. With ballot harvesting you can easily set up a scam factory; entice people to receive votes, turn over blanks, and complete them "for the voter".
 
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As the results get released over the next few weeks the left will continue to try to discredit the Arizona Audit in any way they possibly can. Let's refresh our memory on a few testimonies from observers and election workers that have been completely ignored by many.

 
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