Article about Barnes

[hUTch2002]

Isnt' that what was said about football recently? Sometimes, BIG TIME COACHES prove themselves at BIG TIME PROGRAMS! Heupel is a perfect example of that! Is UT a football school? Absolutely! But, UT had much more excitement and more recent support for baseball and basketball for a few years before the HEUP arrived!!! All this UT isn't a basketball school and can't get a big time basketball coach by y'all that think so is PURE ASININE SPEWING OF THE MOUTH. The current administration CAN and WILL spend the money to hire a BIG TIME basketball coach when it is necessary. If Barnes lays an egg in the SEC Tournament and NCAA Tournament again next season, I say it is time to roll the dice and get a new YOUNG coach. Enough is enough!

Sweet 16 when most predicted a round 1 exit and we were an underdog to a hot Duke team isn’t “laying an egg” and we won the SEC tournament last year for the first time in 40 years.

 

[volman128]

There's no question that Barnes is a good coach. There's also no question he's grossly overpaid given his results. The ceiling for him here is the S16 yet we pay him like he's getting us to the FF. He's lost to a worse seed every year that he's been here. I don't really have problem with getting to the 2nd Round/Sweet 16, but it's embarrassing when we lose to a lower seed every year and our coach has a top four salary nationally. We were pretty much gift wrapped a trip to the Elite 8 this year.

 

[hUTch2002]

Maybe Barnes has a little Bobby Cox in him. Cox managed the Braves when they were certifiably the best ball club since the Yanks had Ruth and Gehrig on their roster and managed to barely win one series during that span.

And it was because of no offense. Apt comparison.

 

[Boston Vol]

W

WHo you going hire? who will come here that is proven? You think a Mid Major coach is the answer?

Of the 16 coaches who made it to the second week of the tournament this year, 11 came to the current jobs from being a head coach at a mid major program or as an assistant with zero head coaching experience.

 

[hUTch2002]

There's no question that Barnes is a good coach. There's also no question he's grossly overpaid given his results. The ceiling for him here is the S16 yet we pay him like he's getting us to the FF. He's lost to a worse seed every year that he's been here. I don't really have problem with getting to the 2nd Round/Sweet 16, but it's embarrassing when we lose to a lower seed every year and our coach has a top four salary nationally. We were pretty much gift wrapped a trip to the Elite 8 this year.

As I stated earlier, top 15-20 results (out of 340 teams mind you) with a top 5 salary isn’t “grossly overpaid”.

 

[volman128]

Did Barnes shoot 33% from the field, 26% from 3, or 57 % from the ft line? The players played scared and it cost us. Should Barnes have used a TO earlier during the run? Yes he should have, but to say this loss is only on him is ridiculous.

Who recruited those players?

 

[jaguinn5]

Did Barnes shoot 33% from the field, 26% from 3, or 57 % from the ft line? The players played scared and it cost us. Should Barnes have used a TO earlier during the run? Yes he should have, but to say this loss is only on him is ridiculous.

I'll just quote the article you didn't read:

"Coaches often get too much of the credit when things go right and too much of the blame when they don’t, but this is the time of year when it really does make a difference.

There’s a reason “Izzoed” becomes a verb in March. Gonzaga doesn’t storm back from 13 points down to beat UCLA on Thursday night if Mark Few isn’t on that bench. Odds are Kansas would still be playing had Bill Self been at the game last weekend."

 

[volman128]

As I stated earlier, top 15-20 results (out of 340 teams mind you) with a top 5 salary isn’t “grossly overpaid”.

Everyone outside of this fan base knows he's overpaid but okay.

 

[orbs son]

Everything you said is true. However, look at this team since SEC play began in January. They played tight, they couldn’t score, and they didn’t adjust. Injuries were a part of it for sure. But please explain to me why we didn’t see more, especially last night, of our rebounding machine- Tobe Awaka. Please explain to me why a guy like BJ Edwards only saw minimal game time minutes. When your bigs are outrebounded by FAU in what is an elimination game, something isn’t right. This Vols team is loaded. Barnes wants defense to turn into offense. He wants inside presence to turn into outside scoring. But you watched what I watched… short armed inside shots and so many missed layups. Near the end of the game nobody wanted to shoot yet we had to try to score. This has been a 2nd half of the season trend. It‘s also what got us in the Colorado game. The team got to the sweet 16 which is great. But the path was there for so much more. And now comes the inevitable, watching the disgruntled guys hit the portal. Until next season, that’s my 2 cents.

I think Awaka wasn't in more because Aidoo was playing well and the one time TA got in he looked lost on D plus we couldn't have 2 big slow guys in at once. We had to go small and maybe should have went even smaller. The Edwards situation is confusing and has been all season, so I can't explain that at all. Rebounding is pretty easy, they shot alot of outside shots that lead to long rebounds and their players chased them down. They also boxed out better than most NCAA teams because they have to. Aidoo could have been called for 2 over the backs that he put back in.

 

[knoxvol52]

Everyone outside of this fan base knows he's overpaid but okay.

Every coach is overpaid in every sport at the power 5 schools

 

[orbs son]

Rick Barnes is the 4th highest paid basketball coach in the country. Tennessee could pay anyone they want. There’s a guy by the name of Jay Wright who might get the urge to get back into coaching in the next few years. Would be a tremendous hire.

I have been a UT sports fan since the late 80s. There are more Houstons, O'Neils, Pettersons, Dooleys. Tindals, and Pruitts than there have been Pearls, Barnes, or Heupels.

 

[hUTch2002]

Everyone outside of this fan base knows he's overpaid but okay.

Overpaid and grossly overpaid are 2 different things, are they not?

 

[89 VOLS grad]

Sweet 16 when most predicted a round 1 exit and we were an underdog to a hot Duke team isn’t “laying an egg” and we won the SEC tournament last year for the first time in 40 years.

UT's basketball performance vs an average Missouri team in the SEC Tourney and versus a 9 seed CONFERENCE USA TEAM with MUCH LESS TALENT was definitely the defiinition of 'LAYING and EGG'!!! Even without ZZ, UT had FOUR SENIORS on the FLOOR that WERE VERY TALENTED SEC PLAYERS over the course of the year!

 

[LibertyVol]

If the administration does there'd homework and keeps the checkbook open a good hire will be made. Time will tell if it's someone better than Barnes overall but I would bet everything I own that he will be a better in game bench coaching.

No he won’t. Besides isn’t Cuonzo looking for work.

 

[LibertyVol]

I'll just quote the article you didn't read:

"Coaches often get too much of the credit when things go right and too much of the blame when they don’t, but this is the time of year when it really does make a difference.

There’s a reason “Izzoed” becomes a verb in March. Gonzaga doesn’t storm back from 13 points down to beat UCLA on Thursday night if Mark Few isn’t on that bench. Odds are Kansas would still be playing had Bill Self been at the game last weekend."

Izzy got his ass whipped and blamed in on luck.

 

[knoxvol52]

I have been a UT sports fan since the late 80s. There are more Houstons, O'Neils, Pettersons, Dooleys. Tindals, and Pruitts than there have been Pearls, Barnes, or Heupels.

It has shocked me that the Barnes haters aren't screaming hire Dusty May a one hit wonder so far

 

[hUTch2002]

UT's basketball performance vs an average Missouri team in the SEC Tourney and versus a 9 seed CONFERENCE USA TEAM with MUCH LESS TALENT was definitely the defiinition of 'LAYING and EGG'!!! Even without ZZ, UT had FOUR SENIORS on the FLOOR that WERE VERY TALENTED SEC PLAYERS over the course of the year!

Why are you yelling? Mizzou wasn’t average but I agree UT should’ve beaten them. Yes, we should’ve beaten FAU but we shouldn’t have beaten Duke and we shouldn’t have beaten Kansas or Bama but we did. Overall, we ended up right about where people predicted us at the start of the year.

 

[VolArmy74]

Of the 16 coaches who made it to the second week of the tournament this year, 11 came to the current jobs from being a head coach at a mid major program or as an assistant with zero head coaching experience.

This is what gets me about so many of our fans, and ironically they are the ones who usually call others names like ignorant or stupid. It's rare as hens teeth to hire high major to high major coaches who are successful because most successful high major coaches aren't leaving. Roy Williams going from Kansas to North Carolina is the exception, not the rule. When Barnes retires we will most likely go after someone who's at a Mid-Major but wins a lot of games and has made an NCAA tournament or two. I would say promote from within be we don't tend to have any long term, stable assistants that are great coaches.

 

[hog88]

We thought the same when Pearl was let go and you saw what happened CM and then DT enough said

All three of those were ugly separations, Barnes retiring would be apples to organges compared to his 3 predecessors departures. The man is 68, he's going to retire within the next 2-3 years so should we just shut the program down when he does?

 

[Boston Vol]

This is what gets me about so many of our fans, and ironically they are the ones who usually call others names like ignorant or stupid. It's rare as hens teeth to hire high major to high major coaches who are successful because most successful high major coaches aren't leaving. Roy Williams going from Kansas to North Carolina is the exception, not the rule. When Barnes retires we will most likely go after someone who's at a Mid-Major but wins a lot of games and has made an NCAA tournament or two. I would say promote from within be we don't tend to have any long term, stable assistants that are great coaches.

Correct. If Barnes up and retired today, Tennessee would most likely end up with someone like Pat Kelsey or Dusty May.

 

[knoxvol52]

All three of those were ugly separations, Barnes retiring would be apples to organges compared to his 3 predecessors departures. The man is 68, he's going to retire within the next 2-3 years so should we just shut the program down when he does?

Retiring different scenario people on here want him FIRED that is a whole different situation

 

[knoxvol52]

Correct. If Barnes up and retired today, Tennessee would most likely end up with someone like Pat Kelsey or Dusty May.

Aaah the first Dusty May suggestion the Buzz Petersen of the 2020's get mad Petersen was the hot commodity back in the day and a big flop he was

 

[hog88]

Retiring different scenario people on here want him FIRED that is a whole different situation

Barnes isn't getting fired, firing him would be stupid and I don't think for a second DW is stupid. NOW that being said, Barnes can't coach here forever and if he tries to hang on too long something will have to be done. Let's just hope it doesn't come to that.

 

[hog88]

Aaah the first Dusty May suggestion the Buzz Petersen of the 2020's get mad Petersen was the hot commodity back in the day and a big flop he was

Who would you recommend DW go after if Barnes decided to hang up his whistle today?

 

[knoxvol52]

Barnes isn't getting fired, firing him would be stupid and I don't think for a second DW is stupid. NOW that being said, Barnes can't coach here forever and if he tries to hang on too long something will have to be done. Let's just hope it doesn't come to that.

I agree with you he isn't getting fired