Article on LoopHoles and 'Blue Shirting'

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Statement from the SEC seemed awfully non-committal. They seemed to just be stating the rule. I'm curious if anyone else has another take.

It makes me think having the kids sign financial aid agreements prior to 12/1 and not counting them since they don't fall in that window will work. The rule will probably be changed if the loophole is real but CBJ could use it this year. If he recruits and retains players he shouldn't need it again anyway.

The financial aid loophole always seemed more practical then the blushirting concept. It would be tough to get top shelf kids to sign without violating the definition of a recruited athlete from what I can tell.
 
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Honestly wouldn't be surprised if we have some NCAA investigation soon. The way we are recruiting and how many we have commited is odd.
 
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I got merged for posting this about three hours ago. Someone beat both of us and posted it in the AM. Good thread in RF
 
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Catbone said:
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if we have some NCAA investigation soon. The way we are recruiting and how many we have commited is odd.
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Nah don't worry. We have rich tradition, a 45 million dollar facility and 103k on Saturday. The AA will "get it"
 
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I don't understand all the loophole talk. It is the duty of the NCAA and the SEC to develop rules to govern the actions of coaches and schools, and it and it is our duty to comply with them (as written). However, it is not our duty to try to figure out what they meant to allow in the rule. If it were as simple as limiting scholarships to 25 per year, then they could very easily have written it that way. Why do we think that backcounting is allowable? Is it because everyone is doing it, or did someone call the psychic hotline and get a reading on the intent of the NCAA rulemakers? CBJ's job isn't to guess what the NCAA may or may not have meant, but to follow the rules, as written.

I don't think the NCAA is going to apply special scrutiny to Tennessee when we were in compliance with the the very rules that they wrote.
 
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triadvolfan said:
Statement from the SEC seemed awfully non-committal. They seemed to just be stating the rule. I'm curious if anyone else has another take.

It makes me think having the kids sign financial aid agreements prior to 12/1 and not counting them since they don't fall in that window will work. The rule will probably be changed if the loophole is real but CBJ could use it this year. If he recruits and retains players he shouldn't need it again anyway.

The financial aid loophole always seemed more practical then the blushirting concept. It would be tough to get top shelf kids to sign without violating the definition of a recruited athlete from what I can tell.
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That is absolutely terrible foresight by the NCAA in that case.

You could theoretically sign 50 players in a class and as long as they were signed before December 1, it doesn't count towards the 25 recruit limit.
 
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Is the SEC penalty for over signing a one-for-one loss of scholarships the next year? If so, a program as pitiful as ours might want to effectively move part of the 2015 class forward to 2014.
 
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Timing of the article is a pretty big coincidence?? :blink:

I'm not paranoid, its just that everyone is out to get us!! :)



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I'm glad that we are being talked about as being ahead of the curve. With Dooley, no one was ever worried that we were cheating.
 
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I didn't know until reading the comments on that page that Mark Richt was the second coming of Jesus Christ...Today I Learned.
 
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cgbtn said:
Is the SEC penalty for over signing a one-for-one loss of scholarships the next year? If so, a program as pitiful as ours might want to effectively move part of the 2015 class forward to 2014.
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the NCAA doesn't have penalties attached to their rules. they deliver penalties after finding a school guilty and they can be different from school to school. Penalties are never the same for same broken rule.

no one has ever over signed and broke that rule. the theory is, the penalty is too great. They could do anything they wanted to if a school broke it. Bowl bans, take away scholarships, probation, take away championship opportunities, anything
 
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Chilmonty said:
Timing of the article is a pretty big coincidence?? :blink:

I'm not paranoid, its just that everyone is out to get us!! :)



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the timing was because the SEC officials were in Atlanta for SECCG and the AJC could meet with them.

I wouldn't be surprised if the SEC office didn't have conversations with UT officials on this subject, especially since they were responding publicly
 
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