Article on LoopHoles and 'Blue Shirting'

[LWSVOL]

So how did Georgia sign like 33 last year?

they had 2 non qualifiers in that class.

they had 8 spots available on the previous class to back count early enrollees so they had plenty of space without even gray shirting anyone..

 

[butchna]

Timing of the article is a pretty big coincidence?? :blink:

I'm not paranoid, its just that everyone is out to get us!!

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We'll STOP being paranoid WHEN they quit conspiring against us
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[LWSVOL]

That is absolutely terrible foresight by the NCAA in that case.

You could theoretically sign 50 players in a class and as long as they were signed before December 1, it doesn't count towards the 25 recruit limit.

the loophole is with an SEC rule, not an NCAA rule. It does no good to sign 40 due to SEC loop hole. UT will still be constraint by the NCAA initial counter rule. You can only bring on 25 scholarship players in each academic year... We will still have to find a way around that..

My guess is

we have 5 back counts that can be initial counters on the 2013 class.

we have 25 initial counters for 2014 class

he ends up with a couple of gray shirts that can go on 2015 class counters

just guessing

 

[Other_Guy]

The great thing is, even if they have another "bad" signing day it's still a heck of a class and one CBJ needs to turn things around.

 

[KingNick865]

the loophole is with an SEC rule, not an NCAA rule. It does no good to sign 40 due to SEC loop hole. UT will still be constraint by the NCAA initial counter rule. You can only bring on 25 scholarship players in each academic year... We will still have to find a way around that..

My guess is

we have 5 back counts that can be initial counters on the 2013 class.

we have 25 initial counters for 2014 class

he ends up with a couple of gray shirts that can go on 2015 class counters

just guessing

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up.

 

[HuntsVol_AL]

Oversigning is an underground hot topic. Some tOSU zealots lead the charge. Even after Tressel, Pryor, tattoo gate, the hiring of Urban Meyer (a known sleazeball, liar); tOSU pretends to be a moral authority.

They paint the picture of a ruthless SEC "drafting" and unfairly "cutting" players. When the SEC does it (medical redshirt, transfer, kicks-outs), it is ruthless. When Ohio State does it, it is justified. The authors even included Aaron Douglass as a number among Bama's casualties.

It's a hypocritical argument. Ohio State will once again raise this flag because they're jealous of the success of the SEC. They have even drawn comparisons between oversigning and slavery. And they do it with a straight face.

It's not just them, though. It's many who are jealous of Bama. I've seen many Vols taking this banner. I have always opposed the "oversigning" platform.

Be ready. These criticisms are going to be pointed at UT.

 

[f77f00]

Lost it from the comment section, some pure gold there:

CMR and UGA try to run a program of integrity ......but we are surrounded by renegading and desperate cheating programs... who choose to win at all COST!

 

[Coug]

So because we are recruiting well, we should be investigated?

Also, why is it odd?

Dumb.

He's not wishing for an investigation.

It's along the lines of "it seems to good to be true".

Part of that thought process is due to the losing mentality we've had to cope with the past few years. So you start thinking what is he doing to land so many really good recruits.

 

[Escape Goat]

Lol. Butch making every SEC member mad cause he knows how to recruit, and find loopholes their dumb ass coaches couldn't exploit.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

Lot of angry Dawg fans whining about us cheating. LOL!

They are all butt-hurt....WHEN THEY DID THE SAME THING LAST YEAR! They took 33! I can't understand all the BS over this. At the end of the day, every school is limited to 85 scholarship players. How a school arrives at that each year, is their own business.

They are, instead, jealous that they are getting spanked on the recruiting trail...period.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if we have some NCAA investigation soon. The way we are recruiting and how many we have commited is odd.

What's to investigate? They and the SEC will know come signing day. They know that a new coach, with a deficiency in talent is going to try and bolster his roster to the best of his ability. THAT IS HIS JOB!!!

How is using a mixture of backcounting, grayshirting and possibly blue-shirting scandalous and deserving of an "investigation?" Good grief. Some of our fans are as clueless as the butt-sniffer fans. :crazy:

 

[VOLorNuttin]

forget it

That's a good idea. Think those kinds of thoughts before you decide to post.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

the loophole is with an SEC rule, not an NCAA rule. It does no good to sign 40 due to SEC loop hole. UT will still be constraint by the NCAA initial counter rule. You can only bring on 25 scholarship players in each academic year... We will still have to find a way around that..

My guess is

we have 5 back counts that can be initial counters on the 2013 class.

we have 25 initial counters for 2014 class

he ends up with a couple of gray shirts that can go on 2015 class counters

just guessing

Larry, that is not correct. The alleged "new loophole" is a very recent one, that the NCAA instituted. Not the SEC. It was brought up well before we started having some sign FAA's before Dec.1

There must be some legitimacy to it, otherwise we wouldn't have had guys sign it, that were already SOLID commits. There is otherwise NOTHING for us or the recruit to gain, by signing those.

 

[Boca Vol]

So because we are recruiting well, we should be investigated?

Also, why is it odd?

Dumb.

There were posters on here saying the same thing about Ole Miss last year.

There will other teams saying that about UT this year.

 

[walkenvol]

There is otherwise NOTHING for us or the recruit to gain, by signing those.

I see it as a huge benefit to the student athlete.

UT "extends" way more offers than schollys available. Take Booth for example. He was all set to EE then got caught in the numbers crunch. If he had signed the financial agreement then it puts him in the driver's seat. Historically, the universities have the ability to pull the rug out on a players until the NLI was signed in Feb if they find a recruit more to their liking.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

I see it as a huge benefit to the student athlete.

UT "extends" way more offers than schollys available. Take Booth for example. He was all set to EE then got caught in the numbers crunch. If he had signed the financial agreement then it puts him in the driver's seat. Historically, the universities have the ability to pull the rug out on a players until the NLI was signed in Feb if they find a recruit more to their liking.

Notice the word "OTHERWISE." What is it there for?

 

[jtlhotspot]

forget it

No, please explain yourself.