At-large Teams Already Chosen

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sdowell said:
thanks, thought you were a pretty nice guy till now. i love the ignore button.
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I mean honestly how do you expect me or anyone to take to serious when you say s miss won't make the tourney?

I'm trying to he nice, but really how do you say that?

NOBODY in the world agrees.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I mean honestly how do you expect me or anyone to take to serious when you say s miss won't make the tourney?

I'm trying to he nice, but really how do you say that?

NOBODY in the world agrees.
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This.

To sdowell, look at this link and tell me which braketologist has Southern Miss out. Every braketologist is not going to miss out on one.

The Bracket Project's Bracket Matrix - 2012
 
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Tennessee's RPI is 84.
Not realistic to think that gets an at-large bid in tournament.
 
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WA_Vol said:
Tennessee's RPI is 84.
Not realistic to think that gets an at-large bid in tournament.
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The committee has said they will use...

1. Kenpom
2. BPI
3. RPI

In that order. If this is true, the first 2 rankings have Tennessee with NCAA TOURNAMENT rankings.

Also, UNM years ago broke the record and got in with a 73, prior to that people said that never happen. That was a 64 team field, no reason to think with a 68 team field that it couldn't go higher than 73.

As I said, biggest thing is if committee stays true to what they said and use the kenpom more than anything. If they do we have a chance.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
The committee has said they will use...

1. Kenpom
2. BPI
3. RPI

In that order. If this is true, the first 2 rankings have Tennessee with NCAA TOURNAMENT rankings.

Also, UNM years ago broke the record and got in with a 73, prior to that people said that never happen. That was a 64 team field, no reason to think with a 68 team field that it couldn't go higher than 73.

As I said, biggest thing is if committee stays true to what they said and use the kenpom more than anything. If they do we have a chance.
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Good post, you make some good points.
I looked up the Kenpom index, UT was around 62, higher then Miss. or Miss State.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
The committee has said they will use...

1. Kenpom
2. BPI
3. RPI

In that order. If this is true, the first 2 rankings have Tennessee with NCAA TOURNAMENT rankings.

Also, UNM years ago broke the record and got in with a 73, prior to that people said that never happen. That was a 64 team field, no reason to think with a 68 team field that it couldn't go higher than 73.

As I said, biggest thing is if committee stays true to what they said and use the kenpom more than anything. If they do we have a chance.
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You have said in several post that the lobos got an at large bid with 73 rpi.
LINK?
 
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I took this article to mean very little weight is being placed on conference tournaments; with the exception of unexpected winners. I think the committee voted on the field and listed their last team in, second to last, etc. If team x unexpectedly wins their tourney, then they slide the expected AQ to an at large and bump the last team in. This doesn't mean that Tennessee will get in. But this line of thinking doesn't hurt us, that's for sure.
 
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WA_Vol said:
Tennessee's RPI is 84.
Not realistic to think that gets an at-large bid in tournament.
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We have a much more favorable rating in the KenPom rankings, which another poster said the NCAA Committee puts more emphasis on than the RPI. Here are the latest KenPom rankings involving SEC teams trying to get that 5th SEC spot (also included South. Miss)

Vols ranked #60 in the latest (Sat. night) KenPom rankings
Southern Miss is #70
Ole Miss is #81
Miss. St. #86
 
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#39
I can't figure out why this committee statement is so hard to figure out by some of the people in this thread. It is common sense.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
I can't figure out why this committee statement is so hard to figure out by some of the people in this thread. It is common sense.
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Before reading or hearing it in context, I thought the committee had said the at-large teams had already been set in stone, regardless of the outcomes of Saturday and Sunday's games.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
Before reading or hearing it in context, I thought the committee had said the at-large teams had already been set in stone, regardless of the outcomes of Saturday and Sunday's games.
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Right, that would definitely be questionable/debatable. What they have now is a flow chart, or a matrix where they make changes as needed.

If (Team A > Team B)
{
Team A Advances;
Team C Remains;
}

else
{
Team A & B advance;
Team C is eliminated;
}
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We'll see if anyone gets my humor.
 
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What I understood the guy to be saying in the interview was this; "We have effectively ranked the top 75 or so teams (any arbitrary number), and determined who would assume the 37 at-large spots using our criteria for selection."

This includes the UK's, the Syracuse's, Michigan State's, the UNC's of the world. As those teams invariably win their conference tournament, they take them off the board for at-large spots, and shift everyone else up a spot. Should those teams lose in the conference tourney (ie Syracuse), they stand pat on the list and take a spot from the schools that eventually will fall below the 37th line on the list.
 
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volforlife15 said:
what is Kenpom exactly?
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Just another ratings index. Ken Pomeroy created a ranking system that takes into account tempo of particular games and how it effects the numbers within. It is similar to RPI except to include tempo-based reflections.

Short answer, another nerd with a fancy calculator.

Edit: I should add that his formula is largely considered by experts to be the most accurate and least biased because he can adjust it for tempo and breakdown possession-by-possession.
 
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sdowell said:
both play in weak conferences. cal and of course colorado are the only pac 12 teams that will go. memphis is the only con usa team that will go. s miss will not. i'm just ramblin, but they both are weak cons.
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bleedingTNorange said:
I mean honestly how do you expect me or anyone to take to serious when you say s miss won't make the tourney?

I'm trying to he nice, but really how do you say that?

NOBODY in the world agrees.
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sdowell said:
we'll see about 6:20 tomorrow
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I hate to say I told you sdowell, but I tried to tell ya. They made it in EASY.
 
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