Atheism makes you smart, but don't take my word for it...

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By now it should be very clear to anyone who has read even just a few comment threads, whether in a forum or social media website, that by the simple virtue of being an atheist you can claim intellectual superiority. Yes, it is just that simple.

By being an atheist you can make yourself smarter (or at least smarter than those religious nuts who claim to be virtuous just because they are religious). But don’t take my word for it—read a few comment threads on Digg or Facebook, and the subject of God and atheism will inevitably come up, and as anyone with half a brain can notice, every single atheist is mentally superior to every other person of faith (who is in turn morally superior). They say so themselves. And if their word is not enough, why just look at their eloquently written references to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and other philosophical weapons that they so deftly deploy.

So if you want to be smart, become an atheist. Also, it’s a very good weapon for guarding against anyone who tries to point out that you have no other intellectually redeeming qualities.
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It has also been my personal observation that the above holds true for feminism, pro-gay stances and social liberalism in general.

Thoughs?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Really? Making judgments about the unknown shows self justification. Does this mean people believe they built this themselves?
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Nope, means they have justified themselves to their own moral authority apart from God.

He is only unknown if one doesn't take the time to know Him.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Nope, means they have justified themselves to their own moral authority apart from God.

He is only unknown if one doesn't take the time to know Him.
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Sounds like senseless gibberish to me. What did people do prior to Moses' work or the new testament? What about the godless hordes from the cradle of civilization who didn't know the deal? Were those folks self justifying?
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BigPapaVol said:
Sounds like senseless gibberish to me. What did people do prior to Moses' work or the new testament? What about the godless hordes from the cradle of civilization who didn't know the deal? Were those folks self justifying?
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Well, if you believe as I do that it began with Adam, they knew. Then turned their backs on him. Then went to Noah, you know what happened there. Then came Moses. Plus you have to understand just where Jesus was for those 3 days and who He preached to there. Then you would understand their fate.

I condensed this greatly because it would have taken a real long time write down everything that transpired. I knew we didn't have that amount of time and plus my fingers would have gotten really tired!
 
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This works both ways. Just like with atheists, the pious believe they have some knowledge of truth. Just look at their references to scripture and testimonials of faith.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Well, if you believe as I do that it began with Adam, they knew. Then turned their backs on him. Then went to Noah, you know what happened there. Then came Moses. Plus you have to understand just where Jesus was for those 3 days and who He preached to there. Then you would understand their fate.

I condensed this greatly because it would have taken a real long time write down everything that transpired. I knew we didn't have that amount of time and plus my fingers would have gotten really tired!
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Well said.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Well, if you believe as I do that it began with Adam, they knew. Then turned their backs on him. Then went to Noah, you know what happened there. Then came Moses. Plus you have to understand just where Jesus was for those 3 days and who He preached to there. Then you would understand their fate.

I condensed this greatly because it would have taken a real long time write down everything that transpired. I knew we didn't have that amount of time and plus my fingers would have gotten really tired!
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If you honestly believe everyone on Earth knew about the Judeo-Christianic God, then there is no point in attempting to have a conversation on anything religious or historical with you. I can understand why you would want to believe it. Otherwise, there would be a gaping hole in the smugness of many modern Christians.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Well, if you believe as I do that it began with Adam, they knew. Then turned their backs on him. Then went to Noah, you know what happened there. Then came Moses. Plus you have to understand just where Jesus was for those 3 days and who He preached to there. Then you would understand their fate.

I condensed this greatly because it would have taken a real long time write down everything that transpired. I knew we didn't have that amount of time and plus my fingers would have gotten really tired!
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If they all knew, what are these great commission and missionary work things all about? Who were the folks that Cain found after slaying Abel?

Just seems a bit absurd to me for belittling logical humans when they eschew an illogical idea like blind faith.
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BigPapaVol said:
If they all knew, what are these great commission and missionary work things all about? Who were the folks that Cain found after slaying Abel?

Just seems a bit absurd to me for belittling logical humans when they eschew an illogical idea like blind faith.
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First of all, Have you heard of Jesus today? If you have, then you still know. As to still witnessing today, there are still people who don't believe. Those that do not still worship idols.

As to blind faith, thats what someone that doesn't know Christ as their Lord and Saviour has. Those that do are not blind anymore.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
First of all, Have you heard of Jesus today? If you have, then you still know. As to still witnessing today, there are still people who don't believe. Those that do not still worship idols.

As to blind faith, thats what someone that doesn't know Christ as their Lord and Saviour has. Those that do are not blind anymore.
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But the bible says we can't make people believe. Our gig is to spread the word. The Holy Spirit drives the belief.

The second piece is why Christians are perceived as buffoons. It is blind faith on that first step for everyone. That first step is the whole freaking deal. Using those with faith and scripture to prove faith for disbelievers is just senseless in my experience.
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IPorange said:
If you honestly believe everyone on Earth knew about the Judeo-Christianic God, then there is no point in attempting to have a conversation on anything religious or historical with you. I can understand why you would want to believe it. Otherwise, there would be a gaping hole in the smugness of many modern Christians.
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To answer your questions, you may need to look backwards into your on family. Were there Christians in your own family? If there were, then what happened? At what point in ones own family does a gap develop where one generation believes and one does not? So yes, people of different generations believe differently and believe different things. Man through out the life of mankind has not changed, Some choose to believe and some do not. There is not a "gaping hole" as you suggest, just mans chosing to believe and what they choose not to believe. Its simple really.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
To answer your questions, you may need to look backwards into your on family. Were there Christians in your own family? If there were, then what happened? At what point in ones own family does a gap develop where one generation believes and one does not? So yes, people of different generations believe differently and believe different things. Man through out the life of mankind has not changed, Some choose to believe and some do not. There is not a "gaping hole" as you suggest, just mans chosing to believe and what they choose not to believe. Its simple really.
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So how do crazy things like Hinduism come to pass and grow so large, if everyone knew ad religion is about learning that passed down via generations?

I agree that religion is about inheriting that which ones parents believe, which doesn't speak very strongly for the cause, IMO.
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BigPapaVol said:
But the bible says we can't make people believe. Our gig is to spread the word. The Holy Spirit drives the belief.

The second piece is why Christians are perceived as buffoons. It is blind faith on that first step for everyone. That first step is the whole freaking deal. Using those with faith and scripture to prove faith for disbelievers is just senseless in my experience.
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That is true "I" can't make anyone believe. Al I am to do is plant a seed.

True, the very first step is blind, but it is the second one were the blinders come off. The personal relationship begins. Scripture is the faith for believers. It is the same scripture (seed) that make a person interested in the first place. Example, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." It then brings the question, Why? Why, would a God sacrifice His only Son for me? Then as in my case, I can answer for no one else, I wanted to know why and to understand how it effects me. It was that searching that lead me to my undestanding. When a person opens themselves up to the gospel and search with the heart and not the head, things look different.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
So how do crazy things like Hinduism come to pass and grow so large, if everyone knew ad religion is about learning that passed down via generations?

I agree that religion is about inheriting that which ones parents believe, which doesn't speak very strongly for the cause, IMO.
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Has not man always worshiped something? Be it moon, stars, sun, weather or what ever. These beliefs grow in people and change over time, some weaker and some stronger. As you say, parents influence. In my case, I didnot go to or attend church as a youth. We simply did not go. We had a living room that nobody went into, you remember those types of rooms? We did have one of those giant white Bibles on the coffee table in there. I discovered Jesus on my own.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Has not man always worshiped something? Be it moon, stars, sun, weather or what ever. These beliefs grow in people and change over time, some weaker and some stronger. As you say, parents influence. In my case, I didnot go to or attend church as a youth. We simply did not go. We had a living room that nobody went into, you remember those types of rooms? We did have one of those giant white Bibles on the coffee table in there. I discovered Jesus on my own.
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