Atheists "Hijack" Nativity in Santa Monica

[golfballs]

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4 Things Both Atheists and Believers Need to Stop Saying | Cracked.com

Thanks for posting

 

[PKT_VOL]

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4 Things Both Atheists and Believers Need to Stop Saying | Cracked.com

A lot of truth in that list.

For those who believe in God, no explanation is neceserary.

Not necessarily. If they believe in God via revelation or divine experience; then yes. If they believe in God via a rational (a priori) argument or empirical information; then no.

Those that don't believe in God, no explanation is possible.

Again, not necessarily. Strong (Positive) Atheism: yes. Weak (Negative) Atheism, Strong (Positive) Agnosticism, Weak (Negative) Agnosticism: no.

 

[MUR73]

Don't quote me as saying things I did not say. Kindly take your statements and remove them from the quote box.

Here ya go bud, i fixed it for ya. Would you like to respond now or was your whiny, nit picky response all you could really say?[/I


THEREALUT STATEMENT:I have laid out, more than once, how and why I am an agnostic. I conducted the search myself with the terms I suggested to you; it is there. You might have to read twenty-two posts to find the right one; but, like I said, it is there. If you are too lazy to do so, not my problem.

RESPONSE BY MUR73:Cant summarize, huh?

THEREALUT STATEMENT:I also do not care what you think is a "coherent, real alternative"; right now you believe in a God who was born of a virgin.

RESPONSE BY MUR73:And i can only assume, since you dont have the time or the sac to summarize your beliefs in a paragraph or two but have still make time to lay out post after bloviated posts of incoherent ramblings, and long winded meanderings, that you are a man that belives in Darwins evolution.

RESPONSE BY MUR73:If so, you know, not the far fetched Christian belief of a life being brought forth by a supreme being in the womb of a female but instead of the totally believable, scientific led theory that somehow a single cell organisms appeared out of thin air , thats David Copperfield $h*t there, and then turned into multicell organism and then growing fins, lungs, heart, and soo on, until it oozes out onto the beach and then..well we know where it goes from there, we all seen the movie and Stifler's "Ka-Kaw" call drawed that pterodacyl in like a charm...but anyways i digress. Just wanted to say Thanks for the indoctrination/education/Magic Show that your unproven believes also provide.

THEREALUT STATEMENT:Christ did not write the Gospels; many times the sayings of Christ contradict each other. These contradictions have led to plenty of terribly bloody wars between Christians who disagree on which of these statements hold supremacy over the others. But, hey, that is about as coherent as a virgin giving birth...

RESPONSE FROM MUR73: Yes, let's talk about these Contradictions and then later once you have estblished your point(s) we can discuss the bloodshed.

 

[therealUT]

Better, but where have I started that I believe in a world without the existence of a supernatural force? I have not.

I am a deist. I think at least one supernatural force existed at some point. It is possible it still exists. Beyond that, I make no other supernatural claims.

I have states this plenty of times. Feel free to critique that statement as much as I critique religion.

 

[Zetter]

A lot of truth in that list.



Not necessarily. If they believe in God via revelation or divine experience; then yes. If they believe in God via a rational (a priori) argument or empirical information; then no.



Again, not necessarily. Strong (Positive) Atheism: yes. Weak (Negative) Atheism, Strong (Positive) Agnosticism, Weak (Negative) Agnosticism: no.

I'm surprised to see so many options you have but maybe you just like to cover your bases. Anyway where do you stand or don't you, not calling you out just curious.

 

[PKT_VOL]

I'm surprised to see so many options you have but maybe you just like to cover your bases. Anyway where do you stand or don't you, not calling you out just curious.

I listed all the options because there is substantial difference between those categories. Much like there is a substantial difference among the different sects of Christianity. To say all Christians or all Muslim are the same would be disingenuous and false. The same can be said by lumping together all the "non believers" of a Judo-Christian God.

To answer your second question, I consider myself a weak (negative) agnostic if I was to fit into one of the aforementioned categories. However, I am pantheistic (religion wise), utilitarian with an emphasis on Marcus Aurelius (western) and Buddhism (eastern) for personal (moral) philosophy.