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I was talking to somebody about the NYC airports 10 or 15 years ago and they were saying that either LaGuardia or Kennedy was difficult to land because the approach had to be very steep. I've not noticed during the 4 or 5 times that I've had a flight land at LaGuardia. Were they making that up, is it Kennedy that's challenging, or did I just not notice that we were diving into NYC? Or maybe it depends which direction the plane lands at Laguadia?
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I was talking to somebody about the NYC airports 10 or 15 years ago and they were saying that either LaGuardia or Kennedy was difficult to land because the approach had to be very steep. I've not noticed during the 4 or 5 times that I've had a flight land at LaGuardia. Were they making that up, is it Kennedy that's challenging, or did I just not notice that we were diving into NYC? Or maybe it depends which direction the plane lands at Laguadia?
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Neither of those two present any kind of particularly difficult challenge. Of the 2, LGA is probably more difficult because of the relatively short runways, but they are long enough to get a 757 on and turn off before the end. It's just busy with traffic. JFK is easy. The controllers lead you by the nose and the runways are loooooong. The one that really gets my heart up in the US is Orange County/John Wayne. The runway is really really short, and there are lots of small civilian airplanes around. Bogota is challenging because of the language barrier, there are seemingly always thunderstorms around, and, um, oh yeah... mountains!
 
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hog88 said:
Engrish please.
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Controllers work sections of airspace depending on what position they are at in the radar room. Like an office building, different floors do different things, and different sections of a floor do different things.
 
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Driverless cars won't work just off of GPS. they each have internal sensors allowing them to drive themselves without being connected to the mothership. and technology we already see with the assisted/automatic braking is being taken and amplified for the driverless cars. also they plan on running the cars in packs that talk to each other. While any of the three options (mothership, self sensors, pack sensors) wouldn't be as safe as a driver, having all three should be better.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Neither of those two present any kind of particularly difficult challenge. Of the 2, LGA is probably more difficult because of the relatively short runways, but they are long enough to get a 757 on and turn off before the end. It's just busy with traffic. JFK is easy. The controllers lead you by the nose and the runways are loooooong. The one that really gets my heart up in the US is Orange County/John Wayne. The runway is really really short, and there are lots of small civilian airplanes around. Bogota is challenging because of the language barrier, there are seemingly always thunderstorms around, and, um, oh yeah... mountains!
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"TOC" and "TOD" are cool.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Neither of those two present any kind of particularly difficult challenge. Of the 2, LGA is probably more difficult because of the relatively short runways, but they are long enough to get a 757 on and turn off before the end. It's just busy with traffic. JFK is easy. The controllers lead you by the nose and the runways are loooooong. The one that really gets my heart up in the US is Orange County/John Wayne. The runway is really really short, and there are lots of small civilian airplanes around. Bogota is challenging because of the language barrier, there are seemingly always thunderstorms around, and, um, oh yeah... mountains!
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Flew into Tegucigapa before they leveled the mountain, I was looking at the ground banking left about 150 ft off the ground. That was shortly after the C-130 crash there. Takes a great pilot to land there.
 
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AirVol said:
Flew into Tegucigapa before they leveled the mountain, I was looking at the ground banking left about 150 ft off the ground. That was shortly after the C-130 crash there. Takes a great pilot to land there.
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Don't think that would be much fun landing there in the AA AB-319 that I had the "pleasure" of riding in for 4 hrs recently. Much of a forward bump and you'd be picking your face out of the video display on the seat in front of you. Absolutely impossible to pick up anything dropped on the floor. I'm 6' 170 lbs - can't pull the tray fully out and my knees hit the seat in front with nobody reclining. Can't believe the FAA doesn't see that as a safety issue.

Now the girl with long (maybe as long as mine), tanned legs, and short shorts sitting next to me - WOW!
 
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AirVol said:
Flew into Tegucigapa before they leveled the mountain, I was looking at the ground banking left about 150 ft off the ground. That was shortly after the C-130 crash there. Takes a great pilot to land there.
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Never been there. looks like fun though. I always liked this video: https://youtu.be/v_z5HtME9n8


In the voice of Hank Hill: How do you post a got dang video on here?
 
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What's that thing in the What's this thing? thread in the pub? Is this the only one for this area or are there others near TYS?
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
What's that thing in the What's this thing? thread in the pub? Is this the only one for this area or are there others near TYS?
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It's called VORTAC (VOR/TACAN) VHF Omnidirectional Range / TACtical Air Navigation

It's just a navigational aid for pilots. Spits out a radio frequency that their equipment can pick up and point them in the right direction. I believe the aircraft side would use a DME (distance measuring equipment).

VOR is for regular people, TACAN is for the military. Radios are similiar. Civilians mostly use VHF, military uses UHF. So at your airports (like Orlando) you'll have a building full of VHF radios getting used all the time, then a small section of lonely UHF radios just hanging out.

I think thats the only one.
AirNav: Navaid information
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
It's called VORTAC (VOR/TACAN) VHF Omnidirectional Range / TACtical Air Navigation

It's just a navigational aid for pilots. Spits out a radio frequency that their equipment can pick up and point them in the right direction. I believe the aircraft side would use a DME (distance measuring equipment).

VOR is for regular people, TACAN is for the military. Radios are similiar. Civilians mostly use VHF, military uses UHF. So at your airports (like Orlando) you'll have a building full of VHF radios getting used all the time, then a small section of lonely UHF radios just hanging out.

I think thats the only one.
AirNav: Navaid information
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When are they gonna turn those off and go to freeflight? You guys hearing anything about that? Oh, and I got bored on a transcon once and figured out how to decode the GPS fixes like KG75M. Wanna know?

K - USA
G - This is the center. In this case Chicago Center
75 - this is a latitude, but it is coded. TO find what it is, you have to subtract 36. 75 - 36 = 39. Then divide by 6. You get 6.5 Then add that back to 36 to get 42.5. That is the latitude of that fix. 42.5N
M - This is longitude. Much simpler than the latitude. Start with 'A' at 100W and start counting down (The longitudes are smaller going to the east) until you get to 'M' and you come up with 88. That is your longitude.

So that fix is located in the Chicago sector at 42.5N 88W.

I was really really bored. What is amazing to me is that somebody came up with that system.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
When are they gonna turn those off and go to freeflight? You guys hearing anything about that? Oh, and I got bored on a transcon once and figured out how to decode the GPS fixes like KG75M. Wanna know?

K - USA
G - This is the center. In this case Chicago Center
75 - this is a latitude, but it is coded. TO find what it is, you have to subtract 36. 75 - 36 = 39. Then divide by 6. You get 6.5 Then add that back to 36 to get 42.5. That is the latitude of that fix. 42.5N
M - This is longitude. Much simpler than the latitude. Start with 'A' at 100W and start counting down (The longitudes are smaller going to the east) until you get to 'M' and you come up with 88. That is your longitude.

So that fix is located in the Chicago sector at 42.5N 88W.

I was really really bored. What is amazing to me is that somebody came up with that system.
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I have never heard of going freelight. Yeah I knew about the K. I bet your flight manuals have them before the airports, like KMCO, KTYS, etc. I think its part of the ICAO standards but I don't care about non American rules.
 
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The ex is in Atlanta waiting on her flight back to Fort Smith. She hates flying.

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I say stuff like that all the time. Where are our pilots? Oh probably putting their prayer rugs somewhere for safe keeping. They won't be needing them after this flight anyways.
 
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In all seriousness, pax need to be careful how they phrase any jokes toward crew members. We were boarding one night and I was in the cockpit loading the flight plan in the FMS (flight management system - computer). The captain I was flying with was saying hello to people boarding. Some genius got on board and says "y'all haven't been drinking have you?" Captain responded "That's just not even funny. We take that seriously." Pax kept at it. "Well, have you been drinking?" At that point the pax was informed that what he had essentially done was to call our sobriety into question. The captain stopped boarding, called ACS (red coat) and informed him of the situation. What this meant was we would now have to delay the flight and wait for qualified personnel to come out and alcohol test us. It was a significant delay that time of night, an hour and a half. Talk about some pissed off passengers ready to kill that guy. Some people just have zero situational awareness.
 
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Vol737 said:
In all seriousness, pax need to be careful how they phrase any jokes toward crew members. We were boarding one night and I was in the cockpit loading the flight plan in the FMS (flight management system - computer). The captain I was flying with was saying hello to people boarding. Some genius got on board and says "y'all haven't been drinking have you?" Captain responded "That's just not even funny. We take that seriously." Pax kept at it. "Well, have you been drinking?" At that point the pax was informed that what he had essentially done was to call our sobriety into question. The captain stopped boarding, called ACS (red coat) and informed him of the situation. What this meant was we would now have to delay the flight and wait for qualified personnel to come out and alcohol test us. It was a significant delay that time of night, an hour and a half. Talk about some pissed off passengers ready to kill that guy. Some people just have zero situational awareness.
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I just tell them I never drink and smoke weed at the same time. In all seriousness, when a pax keeps at me like that I tell them I have had no more to drink than they had when they drove to the airport. I agree with you 100%. Let the other passengers know that this guy is responsible - completely - for delaying their flight.
 
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Vol737 said:
In all seriousness, pax need to be careful how they phrase any jokes toward crew members. We were boarding one night and I was in the cockpit loading the flight plan in the FMS (flight management system - computer). The captain I was flying with was saying hello to people boarding. Some genius got on board and says "y'all haven't been drinking have you?" Captain responded "That's just not even funny. We take that seriously." Pax kept at it. "Well, have you been drinking?" At that point the pax was informed that what he had essentially done was to call our sobriety into question. The captain stopped boarding, called ACS (red coat) and informed him of the situation. What this meant was we would now have to delay the flight and wait for qualified personnel to come out and alcohol test us. It was a significant delay that time of night, an hour and a half. Talk about some pissed off passengers ready to kill that guy. Some people just have zero situational awareness.
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A problem from deregulation. Even morons can fly now.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
When are they gonna turn those off and go to freeflight? You guys hearing anything about that? Oh, and I got bored on a transcon once and figured out how to decode the GPS fixes like KG75M. Wanna know?

K - USA
G - This is the center. In this case Chicago Center
75 - this is a latitude, but it is coded. TO find what it is, you have to subtract 36. 75 - 36 = 39. Then divide by 6. You get 6.5 Then add that back to 36 to get 42.5. That is the latitude of that fix. 42.5N
M - This is longitude. Much simpler than the latitude. Start with 'A' at 100W and start counting down (The longitudes are smaller going to the east) until you get to 'M' and you come up with 88. That is your longitude.

So that fix is located in the Chicago sector at 42.5N 88W.

I was really really bored. What is amazing to me is that somebody came up with that system.
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I had a pilot that was filed over a bunch of KXXX fixes asking me what they were a couple of weeks ago. Seems like American Airlines is who uses them the most right now, especially on flights to the west coast.

Only thing I don't like about them is that it puts some odd and unexpected turns along peoples routes.
 
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