B1G (Ohio State) Privilege

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Not stating anything overly perceptive or original here, but I don’t know if anyone foresaw how advantageous the current playoff system (even if they go to 16 teams) is for the B1G, and specifically Ohio State. 10-2 will likely get Ohio State in the playoffs >95% of the time, and how often is Ohio State not going to be able to achieve at least a 10-2 record in the B1G? Don’t get me wrong, OSU is super talented and clearly looks like the best team in college football this year. However, if they played an SEC schedule, I firmly believe there would at least be some years where they would take a 3rd loss. You have to be in it to win it, and it looks like you can go ahead and pencil OSU in the field in perpetuity. I can see them accumulating national titles at a greater rate than anyone moving forward.
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
I get what you’re saying about making it in the field, but in the playoff itself they have had to beat us, Oregon, and Texas to get to the championship game. They’ve made it look easy, but that’s a murderer’s row. They will be one of the most deserving champs in the modern era if they win it all.
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Agree 100%. All I’m saying is in a 10-year period, OSU will likely get in 10 times. No SEC team will be able to do that in the current format.
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
I get what you’re saying about making it in the field, but in the playoff itself they have had to beat us, Oregon, and Texas to get to the championship game. They’ve made it look easy, but that’s a murderer’s row. They will be one of the most deserving champs in the modern era if they win it all.
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As bad as I hate it I 100 % agree
 
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cbrown said:
Agree 100%. All I’m saying is in a 10-year period, OSU will likely get in 10 times. No SEC team will be able to do that in the current format.
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Eh I’m not too sure about that. The difference between the conferences is mostly in the SEC’s middle and lower-tier teams being superior to their B1G counterparts. The number of top teams is similar.

I wouldn’t be surprised if UGA and UT make it every year or nearly every year, probably Texas as well.
 
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Everyone paying any attention saw this and it has been commented on here numerous times (including myself ad nauseum). Given how incredibly top heavy the Big 10 is right now, you can pretty much pencil (or use a permanent marker even) in OSU, PSU, Oregon, and even Michigan moving forward as long as their schedules have at most 1-2 tough games like they are now.

In the SEC 3/4 of the conference in any given year now will be tough games, especially on the road, while the Big 10 goes maybe 5-6 deep with solid programs in a league of 18 teams. There are another handful (Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota) that are middle of the road, and then there is half a conference of bottom feeders that are automatic wins for the good teams.

As long as strength of schedule is downplayed for "strength of record", the SEC will be hurt when it comes to playoff bids.
 
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cbrown said:
Not stating anything overly perceptive or original here, but I don’t know if anyone foresaw how advantageous the current playoff system (even if they go to 16 teams) is for the B1G, and specifically Ohio State. 10-2 will likely get Ohio State in the playoffs >95% of the time, and how often is Ohio State not going to be able to achieve at least a 10-2 record in the B1G? Don’t get me wrong, OSU is super talented and clearly looks like the best team in college football this year. However, if they played an SEC schedule, I firmly believe there would at least be some years where they would take a 3rd loss. You have to be in it to win it, and it looks like you can go ahead and pencil OSU in the field in perpetuity. I can see them accumulating national titles at a greater rate than anyone moving forward.
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Do you see anyone that can beat OSU?
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
Eh I’m not too sure about that. The difference between the conferences is mostly in the SEC’s middle and lower-tier teams being superior to their B1G counterparts. The number of top teams is similar.

I wouldn’t be surprised if UGA and UT make it every year or nearly every year, probably Texas as well.
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This speaks to my point. The middle tier teams in the SEC are capable of beating the top tier teams on a given day (especially at home). I don’t think that’s true of the B1G. Because if that, top tier SEC are going to accumulate more losses, maybe not in a single season, but over time they certainly will.
 
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I think you can make an argument that the format helped the big 10 but damn Ohio state went through the toughest road imo by far. Format possibly saved Day as well, a year ago Ohio state doesn’t even make the playoffs. Best team in the country by far talent wise and they have two losses, one to their biggest rival who is down this year. Idk if Day would’ve been replaced in another year but you could certainly make the case his seat was scorching.
 
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sami said:
Everyone paying any attention saw this and it has been commented on here numerous times (including myself ad nauseum). Given how incredibly top heavy the Big 10 is right now, you can pretty much pencil (or use a permanent marker even) in OSU, PSU, Oregon, and even Michigan moving forward as long as their schedules have at most 1-2 tough games like they are now.

In the SEC 3/4 of the conference in any given year now will be tough games, especially on the road, while the Big 10 goes maybe 5-6 deep with solid programs in a league of 18 teams. There are another handful (Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota) that are middle of the road, and then there is half a conference of bottom feeders that are automatic wins for the good teams.

As long as strength of schedule is downplayed for "strength of record", the SEC will be hurt when it comes to playoff bids.
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Can we name Texas or Tennessee as four tough games this year.

Both teams made it, and neither had a single wins another play-off teams. Both teams deserved to be in there tho.

Texas and Tennessee both feasted on the worst six teams in the sec.

You can only beat the teams in front of you, and worrying about what everyone else is doing isn't really that important til the last game of the year
 
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I would rather say that Ohio State is looking like the best team at the end of the year, rather than best team this year. It's a small distinction but one I firmly believe in. The "best team that year" can't be settled by an end of season tournament.

Winning an end of season tournament doesn't tell you who the best team was during that particular season. Had Clemson somehow magically gone on a run, won 4 games, finished 14-3, they still wouldn't have been the best team this season, for example. Or inversely, take Oregon, for example. Yes, Oregon lost to Ohio State in the Rose Bowl, but that was their only loss - and they beat them earlier that year. They also didn't lose a home game to a 7-5 team.
 
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The SEC will be a game of musical chairs to grab those 3, 4 or possibly 5 spots most years. OSU plays 2 or 3 teams a year that could possibly beat them. The SEC is still way deeper and harder to navigate all the possible landmines.. It's not as top heavy as it used to be. In fact seems NIL pulled the SEC closer to one another, and did the opposite in these other conferences.
 
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Cartervol said:
The SEC will be a game of musical chairs to grab those 3, 4 or possibly 5 spots most years. OSU plays 2 or 3 teams a year that could possibly beat them. The SEC is still way deeper and harder to navigate all the possible landmines.. It's not as top heavy as it used to be. In fact seems NIL pulled the SEC closer to one another, and did the opposite in these other conferences.
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Exactly my point.
 
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mackievol said:
So what happens now with the outcry wanting Day gone ? This should be interesting
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The ultimate irony would be Day winning the national title and then leaving for the NFL. I don't believe that is as far fetched as it seems, and the perfect precedent is his 'buddy' Harbaugh the year before.
 
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mackievol said:
They certainly can't fire him now
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They won’t fire him but he’s far from a good coach. Think about how talented this team is and they have 2 losses. Any year prior to this one they don’t even get to play for a national title. Day routinely puts his team in a position to lose even though they are far superior to the team they play.
 
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