Bake sale whites $2.00, Asians $1.50, Latinos $1.00, blacks $0.75 and Indian $.25.

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Controversy erupts over Campus Republicans bake sale plans - CNN.com\\

(CNN) -- Campus Republicans at the University of California Berkeley have cooked up a storm of controversy with their plans for a bake sale.
But it's not your everyday collegiate fundraiser they've got in mind. They've developed a sliding scale where the price of the cookie or brownie depends on your gender and the color of your skin.
During the sale, scheduled for Tuesday, baked goods will be sold to white men for $2.00, Asian men for $1.50, Latino men for $1.00, black men for $0.75 and Native American men for $0.25. All women will get $0.25 off those prices.

"The pricing structure is there to bring attention, to cause people to get a little upset," Campus Republican President Shawn Lewis, who planned the event, told CNN-affiliate KGO. "But it's really there to cause people to think more critically about what this kind of policy would do in university admissions."
Lewis says it's a way to make a statement about pending legislation that would let the California universities consider race or national origin during the admission process.
But the young Republicans have been on the receiving end of a fierce backlash. Reaction has been so negative they've been forced to cancel their customary lunchtime tabling duties, according to KGO.

Lewis told CNN's Don Lemon that they expected a certain amount of opposition but not the level of outrage they experienced.
"We didn't expect the volume, the amount of response that we got," Lewis said. "In the first few hours, hundreds of posts on our Facebook page. And the tone of some of the responses -- we expected people to be upset. We didn't expect personal threats to be made. They were implicit and explicit threats made to the organizers of the event, from burning down the table to throwing our baked goods at us and other kinds of physical threats."
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if this bake sale had been sponsored by Code Pink, or any of dozens of left-wing campus organizations, and had the exact same pricing, this wouldn't be a story
 
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It's always ok to protest, unless you are saying something Liberals don't like
 
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Call me crazy, but I think it's a clever and good idea. Now if they had a separate line for colored's it might be different stroy.
 
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I thought it was pretty funny, but threats over this? WTF happened to this country?
 
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Has been done before - is a pretty common (and effective) demonstration used by collegiate Republican orgs.
 
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We also have to realize this is Berkeley. I'm surprised the college republicans have lasted this long.
 
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My take, fwiw:

1) The debate here is really pretty straightforward. The college Republicans are holding the bake sale to mock what they contend is an inconsistency from the left, specifically that they want minorities treated equally, but then also advocate special breaks in things like college admissions for minorities. Its an effective way for the college Republicans to make their argument.

2) I think the college Republicans' position here is oversimplistic and a bit naive in that it ignores that there is a context to this debate, which is that the effect of racism over decades and in some sense centuries is an institutional disadvantage for minorities, which affirmative action is designed to redress. The inconsistency they argue exists on the left on this issue ignores the legend effect of racism over time.

3) I would not for one second ban this effort at all if I were on the left. In fact, I'd welcome it and encourage people to attend and then give a speech explaining that the effects of racism in this country still create a structural hurdle for many minorities and that the display by the college Republicans is in fact naive and oversimplifies the issue. Appeal to the intellect of the audience and allow the college Republicans to make their point, since it is so easily defeated.


I agree that, ideally, color and ethnicity should not matter at all. And in fact we are doing better as we progress. And in time, we will reach a point where there is no need for affirmative action. When that is exactly I can't say, but we are not there yet. One need only look at the statistics about poverty and education in this country to see that there are still significant inherent barriers for some parts of this country, on the whole, and I'd like to see the college Democrats let the Republicans make their argument and then defeat it by explaining to passersby that it is based on a pretty weak sense of history, politics, and culture.

Let the chips fall where they may.
 
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They are copying Stossel. He already did this. I can't believe people get upset over this.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn48t-X0uNU[/youtube]
 
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Did they account for the $5 the whites stole from the Native Americans, the $1.50 they saved on cheap labor from the Hispanics and the $10 they have saved in the bank from the years they used the blacks as free labor? It's not hard to come up with simplistic connections and ignore opposite considerations to suit your point.

The "poor, suffering white people" analogies are always ridiculous. I had someone try the same type of deal when discussing education when they tried this parable of two students who got the same grade when one worked and the other didn't. He thought he was pretty clever, too, until I started peppering him with questions from my time in education. Did the one student have tutors they could afford? Did the one student have to work after school in order to provide for their family? Was one student homeless? Did the one student have parents putting up money for private school? Etc., etc.
 
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