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#51
#51
utvolpj said:
Everyone wants to talk how good their DB's are but where were they last season? Ranked 80th in pass def. w/ 240yd per game. UT was 54th. They also had a neg turnover ration last season. They led the PAC-10 at scoring def w/ 21+ pts per game??? Plus, it looks like they gave up almost 2 sacks per game. Our d-line should be licking their chops.
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Good points, of course. Put them into context, though, too. The Pac 10 is the MOST pass happy conference of the majors. The teams pass pass pass, then run (with the exception of Cal). The numbers will be inflated for ANY team in that conference. Does UT's secondary look better than Cal's? IMO, absolutely. Why? Depth all around.

The Cal CBs are studs, period. Their safeties for 2006 are new starters, so they have a solid weakness in the secondary. So, our slot WRs and TEs will need to catch the ball when they're open in the middle 3rd of the field.

UT has 6 capable DBs, so when we go into Nickel and Dime packages (Mustang), we will have 6 VERY solid guys out there.

That being said, back to the topic. The gameplan SHOULD call to stay away from Hughes and Mixon, attack the middle of the field. And if we are to attack Hughes and Mixon, it either needs to be long lob passes, or depending on the cushion the guys give our WRs, short hitches. If we allow Hughes and Mixon to latch onto Swain and Meachem, the passes will have to be close to perfect to get in there.

Anyway, the first half in this game will be more important than most, due to game changes we learn from our team and theirs. If the TEs and slots aren't reliable, our passing game could be in trouble. COULD.
 
#52
#52
VolinArizona said:
Good points, of course. Put them into context, though, too. The Pac 10 is the MOST pass happy conference of the majors. The teams pass pass pass, then run (with the exception of Cal). The numbers will be inflated for ANY team in that conference. Does UT's secondary look better than Cal's? IMO, absolutely. Why? Depth all around.

The Cal CBs are studs, period. Their safeties for 2006 are new starters, so they have a solid weakness in the secondary. So, our slot WRs and TEs will need to catch the ball when they're open in the middle 3rd of the field.

UT has 6 capable DBs, so when we go into Nickel and Dime packages (Mustang), we will have 6 VERY solid guys out there.

That being said, back to the topic. The gameplan SHOULD call to stay away from Hughes and Mixon, attack the middle of the field. And if we are to attack Hughes and Mixon, it either needs to be long lob passes, or depending on the cushion the guys give our WRs, short hitches. If we allow Hughes and Mixon to latch onto Swain and Meachem, the passes will have to be close to perfect to get in there.

Anyway, the first half in this game will be more important than most, due to game changes we learn from our team and theirs. If the TEs and slots aren't reliable, our passing game could be in trouble. COULD.
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It doesn't matter where you play, it's all numbers. I don't think that the 80th ranked pass def last season is a bunch of studs.

It's a chicken/egg scenario. Which came first, the good passing offenses or the bad pass defenses? I believe it's a mix of both.
 
#53
#53
utvolpj said:
It doesn't matter where you play, it's all numbers. I don't think that the 80th ranked pass def last season is a bunch of studs.

It's a chicken/egg scenario. Which came first, the good passing offenses or the bad pass defenses? I believe it's a mix of both.
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*sigh* Numbers have contexts, always. I'm a HUGE stat guy, and you should know that by now. Numbers can tell almost everything, when applied correctly. Mixon and Hughers, their two CBs ARE STUDS. They play great cover defense. Their safeties are huge liabilities. See there? Two CBs do not make a defense, and there isn't much depth behind them. USC and Arizona State are two of the best best best passing attacks in the nation, and other Pac 10 teams aren't far behind. What you're saying is that a hitter who hits 40 HRs in Coors Field or the Great American Ballpark is as good a power hitter as someone who hits 40 HRs in RFK Stadium.
 
#56
#56
VolinArizona said:
*sigh* Numbers have contexts, always. I'm a HUGE stat guy, and you should know that by now. Numbers can tell almost everything, when applied correctly. Mixon and Hughers, their two CBs ARE STUDS. They play great cover defense. Their safeties are huge liabilities. See there? Two CBs do not make a defense, and there isn't much depth behind them. USC and Arizona State are two of the best best best passing attacks in the nation, and other Pac 10 teams aren't far behind. What you're saying is that a hitter who hits 40 HRs in Coors Field or the Great American Ballpark is as good a power hitter as someone who hits 40 HRs in RFK Stadium.
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Sorry, don't keep up with your style. I happen to believe that it's the porous defenses that pump up the offensive stats in the PAC-10. They throw if because they can.

And yes, I believe that Helton would put up the same stats at any ballpark. He has a great swing.
 
#58
#58
This thread needs a title change. You boys quit wetting on each other and get back to makin' fun of these west coast fellers.
 
#59
#59
VolinArizona said:
*sigh* Numbers have contexts, always. I'm a HUGE stat guy, and you should know that by now. Numbers can tell almost everything, when applied correctly. Mixon and Hughers, their two CBs ARE STUDS. They play great cover defense. Their safeties are huge liabilities. See there? Two CBs do not make a defense, and there isn't much depth behind them. USC and Arizona State are two of the best best best passing attacks in the nation, and other Pac 10 teams aren't far behind. What you're saying is that a hitter who hits 40 HRs in Coors Field or the Great American Ballpark is as good a power hitter as someone who hits 40 HRs in RFK Stadium.
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Agreed, I look at numbers for a living. A more appropriate analysis might be comparing Cal's pass defense to others in the PAC 10 since all those defenses are facing the same pass happy offenses. If Cal compares favorables to the rest of them, they're probably pretty good.
 
#60
#60
I'm giving Cal a new nickname. "Hair-lip" Cal. Due to the disgusting hairs that are growing out of Cal's lip. Ugly guy that Cal.
 
#63
#63
utvolpj said:
And no one is touting those guys for AA now are they? ND also played much better teams than Cal did last season.
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I don't think so. They both played USC and then Cal played the week PAC 10. ND played a week schedule with us , michigan, and Pitt
 
#67
#67
utchatt said:
I don't think so. They both played USC and then Cal played the week PAC 10. ND played a week schedule with us , michigan, and Pitt
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If you look at the NCAA schedule rankings, ND is ahead of Cal. Maybe they both played a weak sched as you say, but Cal's was rated the weaker of the two.
 
#68
#68
Cal--> :bash: <--Me

Cal afterwards--> :vava:

Well, there, I "bashed" Cal...now what?:crazy:

(Sorry, its a slow day at work)
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#71
#71
This was a Cal fan's recent comment on SI.com. I really hope we physically whip these guys up and down the field.

Posted: 6:57 PM, August 14, 2006 by Anonymous
Tennessee and California seems like a marquee matchup, but I can't wait for the Bears to show these scrubs up on national television and dominate. Teams like Tennessee just seem to get credit because of their name. A No. 23 ranking in the coaches' poll is a joke for this team, which has absolutely no prayer on offense. It doesn't matter that the stadium will be covered in orange--Cal will be so far ahead early in the game that the students and other faithful will be gone by halftime. I loved ESPN's "experts" pinpointing 15 teams they think could win a national title and not even offering a mention of the Bears. No respect, no problem.
 
#73
#73
GenNeyland9 said:
This was a Cal fan's recent comment on SI.com. I really hope we physically whip these guys up and down the field.

Posted: 6:57 PM, August 14, 2006 by Anonymous
Tennessee and California seems like a marquee matchup, but I can't wait for the Bears to show these scrubs up on national television and dominate. Teams like Tennessee just seem to get credit because of their name. A No. 23 ranking in the coaches' poll is a joke for this team, which has absolutely no prayer on offense. It doesn't matter that the stadium will be covered in orange--Cal will be so far ahead early in the game that the students and other faithful will be gone by halftime. I loved ESPN's "experts" pinpointing 15 teams they think could win a national title and not even offering a mention of the Bears. No respect, no problem.
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eh, if i were a CAL fan i'd feel the same way...but i'm not, so i don't. i hope we beat the hell out of 'em.:vava:
 
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