BCS Title Game: OU vs. UF Live Thread

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TrueOrange said:
Tebow wont for some raw mechanics and the problem of he's going to want to run straight into defensive players his first year starting pro and that will get him hurt before all 16 games are through

Also, Tebow won't leave. I'm pretty convinced he'll pull a peyton manning and come back his senior year
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I think the chances are fair he will stay another year too.

If a NFL coach is wise, he wouldn't let Tebow run that much, and make him learn the hook slide. I think he can make it as a NFL QB on his passing ability, he was damn good tonight. On short yardage situations he presents an added threat to defend against.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I don't know why this was directed at me. I think he's one of the best college players ever. This year's Heisman I routinely said he deserved. I simply don't think his skills translate to the NFL. They might, but it will take some time.
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I thought your post was about Tebow and I was agreeing, my bad. I stand by my opinion in any case. I did not mean to imply Tebow should be the top pick.
 
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rbroyles said:
I think the chances are fair he will stay another year too.

If a NFL coach is wise, he wouldn't let Tebow run that much, and make him learn the hook slide. I think he can make it as a NFL QB on his passing ability, he was damn good tonight. On short yardage situations he presents an added threat to defend against.
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Yeah, his draft stock won't change either way so i figure he stays.

The only problem though is that - despite what the coach tells him - him plowing into guys is hardwired into him, it's what he's going to do and probably will keep doing it - even without thinking about it - despite what the coaches say.

The problem is going to be that he is going to be trying to plow into guys at the peak of physical conditioning/strength rather than college players, who some of them are good but it depends on their facilities along with their school's budget

He could run a bit his first few games. But coaches will start planning for guys like Ray lewis, Urlacher, and others to hit him hard if he ever decides to leave the pocket rather than just contain him...and unfortunately he's going to get hurt after that.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
You're right. I simply said I would take him tops. I think he and Pope are the best available.
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So if your the Gm of the detoit lions who have the first pick you would draft him first? Flips the perspective a little when you look at draft order. The lions GM would get run out of town if he drafted a wide reciever first with all of their needs. That is what I am saying. The kid is as talented as anyone just not fit to be a number one pick or top 5 in my opinion.
 
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Big Orange Rock said:
So if your the Gm of the detoit lions who have the first pick you would draft him first? Flips the perspective a little when you look at draft order. The lions GM would get run out of town if he drafted a wide reciever first with all of their needs. That is what I am saying. The kid is as talented as anyone just not fit to be a number one pick or top 5 in my opinion.
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That depends on who is drafting. I agree that the Lions, with their history of drafting receivers #1 all of the time probably wouldn't. However, could you imagine the Colts, after Peyton's first year with a record of 1-15, being able to get a guy like Harvin?
 
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Odds are that harvin ends up on either Colts, Ravens, or Titans and is the next WR picked following maclin
 
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hmanvolfan said:
That depends on who is drafting. I agree that the Lions, with their history of drafting receivers #1 all of the time probably wouldn't. However, could you imagine the Colts, after Peyton's first year with a record of 1-15, being able to get a guy like Harvin?
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I am speaking in a literal sense being that Detroit actually will have the number one pick lest they trade it away. If they dont trade the number one pick away or there was not something already in the works that gives their pick this year to another team ( I am not aware of any such scenario ) and they draft Harvin number one I will walk from chattanooga to Knoxville naked. I am not speaking of would haves or could haves from times past but for what will unfold at this years draft if in fact he declares. However as badly as Detroit needs help I am sure they will entertain trading the first pick for possible later 1st round pick and early second round pick.
 
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Charlie Strong getting a lotta love from Mark and granny, maybe that will catapult him to a prestigious head coaching opportunity.
 
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TrueOrange said:
i'd rather have maclin for the little more height and return abilities but i'd be ok w/ harvin too
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Either on is fine with me just someone who can catch the ball and be a deep threat. We should be able to throw deep on anyone with the running game we have. Our current titans receivers cant do that.
 
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The Dude said:
If the Lions don't trade the pick, I think they take Andre Smith.
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i think it's between Smith or Stafford/Bradford. Lions need alot of help but they need a QB bad. There is no reason at all either kitna or orlovsky should be starting for an NFL team, and the free agent market wont treat an 0-16 team well
 
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