Bernard King in the house.

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Spartacavolus said:
The offense that was run last saturday. The offense from nc state. The offense from ole miss, ga, Georgetown, va, and bama last year.
How many shots would he even get? In the uptempo attacking offense we play well with he would thrive, but CM wouldn't allow it to happen very long, as he didn't last year or this. CM is now whining about turnovers last game and they were from him making his guys take their time in the halfcourt, took their instinct and rhythm away again, and lost. Again.

Of course its just hypothetical. And moot anyway as BK wouldn't have come here to play CM's style for the very reasons we all see.
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I may need to dig into my history a little. I would have thought that BK would average at least 20 plus pts for anyone then. Do you really think defenses would keep him under 20 points per game even on this current team? I don't think so. Who would stop him?
 
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Only CM would stop him. Is there a reason to think he wouldn't? He held the whole team back again Saturday. Why couldn't he hold back one player?
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Only CM would stop him. Is there a reason to think he wouldn't? He held the whole team back again Saturday. Why couldn't he hold back one player?
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I can see zo not having his team prepared. I can see his players being like wtf do we do. Wasnt that your origional point in this thread. Players do what coaches tell them to do. King would not have accomplished what he did without proper coaching.
 
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Yeah, if 1977 Bernard King were teleported onto this team, I don't think it's a given that he gets to 20 ppg either. He averaged 18 shots a game at UT. Jordan McRae's only been getting 12 for the last two years despite being by far the best scoring option. I'm not sure King would get the ball enough to average 20.
 
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He wouldn't. And, if he did hit 2 or 3 in a row, cm would call the only timeout of the game, pull him, and destroy momentum and rhythm.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Yeah, if 1977 Bernard King were teleported onto this team, I don't think it's a given that he gets to 20 ppg either. He averaged 18 shots a game at UT. Jordan McRae's only been getting 12 for the last two years despite being by far the best scoring option. I'm not sure King would get the ball enough to average 20.
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He would by way of his rebounding prowess. He would make good on everyone elses misses.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Yeah, if 1977 Bernard King were teleported onto this team, I don't think it's a given that he gets to 20 ppg either. He averaged 18 shots a game at UT. Jordan McRae's only been getting 12 for the last two years despite being by far the best scoring option. I'm not sure King would get the ball enough to average 20.
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All good points, however, until Mears recruited King and Grunfeld, the Vols were more of a methodical, slow tempo offense. Mears had the coaching ability to adjust the style of his offense to fit his players. Not sure Cuonzo gets that. Also, back in those days, players would play 36-40 minutes a game and didn't get pulled out when they picked up their second foul.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
He wouldn't. And, if he did hit 2 or 3 in a row, cm would call the only timeout of the game, pull him, and destroy momentum and rhythm.
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I think your thinking about BP not Zo. Zo doesn't call timeouts at all and I remember BP doing that to Scotty a lot. Hopson would hit a couple shots, then whistle, timeout us. I only remember him doing it his last year though, I remember my grandfathers friend who is a UT statacition (I think that's how you spell it) said Bruce had a rotation and he would follow the rotation no matter who was hot or not.
 
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OrangeAllDay said:
I think your thinking about BP not Zo. Zo doesn't call timeouts at all and I remember BP doing that to Scotty a lot. Hopson would hit a couple shots, then whistle, timeout us. I only remember him doing it his last year though, I remember my grandfathers friend who is a UT statacition (I think that's how you spell it) said Bruce had a rotation and he would follow the rotation no matter who was hot or not.
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I'm talking about CM pretty much only using timeouts after we hit a couple of shots or 5 seconds prior to the tv timeout. In other words, the worst times to use them. If we are trying to set up a different d or something I could maybe see it, but too often in our losses we go on a roll and it's zapped by the coach. Then, when we need a TO, one is seldom called.
 
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1985Vols said:
All good points, however, until Mears recruited King and Grunfeld, the Vols were more of a methodical, slow tempo offense. Mears had the coaching ability to adjust the style of his offense to fit his players. Not sure Cuonzo gets that. Also, back in those days, players would play 36-40 minutes a game and didn't get pulled out when they picked up their second foul.
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King played in a game at ole Miss where he picked up his fourth (yes, fourth) foul in the first half (yes, first half). Game was close to tied at halftime. He started the second half, played all 20 minutes and never picked up his fifth foul. Vols won by 20.

If I recall correctly.
 
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1985Vols said:
All good points, however, until Mears recruited King and Grunfeld, the Vols were more of a methodical, slow tempo offense. Mears had the coaching ability to adjust the style of his offense to fit his players. Not sure Cuonzo gets that. Also, back in those days, players would play 36-40 minutes a game and didn't get pulled out when they picked up their second foul.
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True about Mears an his style. In the "Bernie & Ernie" ESPN special they referred to it as a "Star System". Players were instructed to seek out and feed the rock to either King or Grunfeld. Overnight, Tennessee went from a half court methodical team on offense to a transition "run & gun" offense. It is a testament to Mears' greatness that he was able to adapt this style to the talent he had.
 
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esarmstrong said:
True about Mears an his style. In the "Bernie & Ernie" ESPN special they referred to it as a "Star System". Players were instructed to seek out and feed the rock to either King or Grunfeld. Overnight, Tennessee went from a half court methodical team on offense to a transition "run & gun" offense. It is a testament to Mears' greatness that he was able to adapt this style to the talent he had.
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Agreed on Mears. They averaged around 90 ppg when King and Grunfeld were playing. King's first game as a freshman he scored 42 points. He was pretty much unstoppable on offense and was a rebounding machine. Some who have said he wouldn't average but 15-20 ppg in this system obviously never saw him play. Still the best to ever wear the orange and IMO the best to play in the SEC.
 
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