Biddle is the Voice of Reason

#27
#27
rexvol said:
to be honest, I dont like Biddle at all, but I agree with his statement. The Zooker was a great recruiter, but his coaching got him fired. I just see Phil headed in the same direction. I will give Phil props, he pulled in a awesome class. The problem is that so did everybody else in the SEC, so what now. Well talent being equal we look to who coaches them up the best. Is there anyone here that thinks Phil is the best in the SEC at developing talent?
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Does any other team in the SEC have more players in the NFL? Facts is facts man.
 
#28
#28
Here's the leg work for ya (rosters opening day 2006 season):

SCHOOLS

1. Florida State 42
2. FLORIDA 37
TENNESSEE 37
4. GEORGIA 35
Ohio State 35
6. Michigan 34
7. Miami (Fla.) 33
8. AUBURN 31
9. LSU 30
Notre Dame 30

OTHER SEC SCHOOLS

Alabama 18
Ole Miss 17
South Carolina 17
Mississippi State 15
Arkansas 11
Vanderbilt 7
Kentucky 6

CONFERENCES

1. SEC 261
2. ACC 231
3. Big Ten 223
4. Pac-10 188
5. Big 12 176
6. Big East 88
7. Conference USA 71
8. Mountain West 68
 
#29
#29
VOLinthaATL said:
Do you think Fulmer is sitting around saying "damn, we recruited a great class, but so did everyone else. We're screwed!" That would be the only way this can be considered a problem....
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do I really have to explain it to you? If everyone in the SEC has the same talent, Yes, Phil must be sitting there saying, "Im screwed."
 
#30
#30
UT IE 95 said:
Does any other team in the SEC have more players in the NFL? Facts is facts man.
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thank you for prooving my point. With that much NFL talent, why are we not consistently competing for championships? It's because Phil can recruit, but he cant coach.
 
#31
#31
rexvol said:
some of us work for a living, genius
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So you've never posted during work hours on a weekday? I'm just saying you often post something and aren't accountable, you just instigate one view that does not seem to be open to any others, and you seem to relish in the negative attention. Kind of like TO...?
 
#32
#32
Here we go again with the Rex vs someone else:

Rex - Nah Uhh.
Other - Yea
Rex - Nah Uhh.
Other - Yea
Rex - Nah Uhh.
Other - Yea
Rex - Nah Uhh.

Do yourself a favor and skip it. Move on.
 
#33
#33
rexvol said:
thank you for prooving my point. With that much NFL talent, why are we not consistently competing for championships? It's because Phil can recruit, but he cant coach.
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Umm, no. Your point, using your words was that all the teams in the SEC have equal talent entering. Yet UT develops the talent to lead the SEC in putting players in the next level. You can't have it both ways.

It takes a lot of luck to win championships. RS slowly killed our offense. We took a big step last year in improving the offense. I suspect the ney sayers will be humbled this fall.
 
#34
#34
hohenfelsvol said:
Here we go again with the Rex vs someone else:

Rex - Nah Uhh.
Other - Yea
Rex - Nah Uhh.
Other - Yea
Rex - Nah Uhh.
Other - Yea
Rex - Nah Uhh.

Do yourself a favor and skip it. Move on.
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I had to get my point in. Now I'll spare everyone the pain that I often suffer reading those types of conversations. I apologize.
 
#36
#36
Im not going to say that CPF is the best in the conference, but we have to remember we consistently win as much as anybody under CPF. So, apparently he is doing something right. We have to remember that only one team can win it a year and alot of the times the best team doesnt win. You throw in a costly fumble or penalty(such as this year against UF) and thats out of the coaches hands. At some point the players have to be accountable for mistakes that the coach had nothing to do with.
 
#37
#37
hohenfelsvol said:
Here we go again with the Rex vs someone else:

Rex - Nah Uhh.
Other - Yea
Rex - Nah Uhh.
Other - Yea
Rex - Nah Uhh.
Other - Yea
Rex - Nah Uhh.

Do yourself a favor and skip it. Move on.
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and yet you feel compelled to weigh in time after time, do me a favor and take your own advice
 
#38
#38
UT IE 95 said:
Umm, no. Your point, using your words was that all the teams in the SEC have equal talent entering. Yet UT develops the talent to lead the SEC in putting players in the next level. You can't have it both ways.

It takes a lot of luck to win championships. RS slowly killed our offense. We took a big step last year in improving the offense. I suspect the ney sayers will be humbled this fall.
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if UT develops all this talent, why does that not translate into championships or at least playing for championships? What you're saying is that it's luck? Please. Pete Carroll must be a pretty lucky guy. All that talent development equaled a losing season a year ago. I guess that was just bad luck.
 
#39
#39
UT is 4th in the SEC recruiting over the last 5 years .

The 05' is the only (maybe 2nd) ranked in the top 10 since 97'

05' class was waaay overrated... only 1 5* and he didnt want to go to class... the rest started to come along last year.

we recruit well, but not consistently as good as UGA, LSU, and UF.
 
#41
#41
We have one of the best recruiting classes in the country with some of the most exciting players in the country and the some of the best players in their position. Lets enjoy that for a while and argue later.

Probably won't happen, but you gotta have goals.
 
#42
#42
rexvol said:
if UT develops all this talent, why does that not translate into championships or at least playing for championships? What you're saying is that it's luck? Please. Pete Carroll must be a pretty lucky guy. All that talent development equaled a losing season a year ago. I guess that was just bad luck.
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In the SEC luck has a lot to do with it. In the 90's the ball bounced UT's way alot. It hasn't recently - combined with the fact the RS had no business being our OC.

All Petey Carroll has to do is show up and win 10 games a year in that pathetic excuse for a football conference.

Your point is that UT does not develop players. That is completely false due to the fact that we are second in the number of players in the NFL. It's really simple to prove my point.
 
#43
#43
Plus having California as your home state and not Tennessee usually translate into better prospects.
 
#44
#44
Don't even bring USC in this. Its like comparing apples to oranges.
Just look at recruiting the past 6 years
SEC has been in the top 10 something like 23 times to the Pac 10's 5. numbers may not be exact but are very close.
 
#45
#45
UT IE 95 said:
In the SEC luck has a lot to do with it. In the 90's the ball bounced UT's way alot. It hasn't recently - combined with the fact the RS had no business being our OC.

All Petey Carroll has to do is show up and win 10 games a year in that pathetic excuse for a football conference.

Your point is that UT does not develop players. That is completely false due to the fact that we are second in the number of players in the NFL. It's really simple to prove my point.
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for the most part the NFL drafts on talent and upside, just like every pro sport. All these players in the NFL just proves that Tennessee has had many players with ability, but our coaches have done very little with them. Of course some luck is involved along the way, but luck is not the dominant factor in a team that consistently competes for a championship.
 
#46
#46
Vol67 said:
Don't even bring USC in this. Its like comparing apples to oranges.
Just look at recruiting the past 6 years
SEC has been in the top 10 something like 23 times to the Pac 10's 5. numbers may not be exact but are very close.
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PAC 10 or MAC or WAC, USC is still a 2 time Natl Champ under Pete. Just because they play in the PAC 10 (a weak conf) doesnt mean they have to give those crystal footballs back. I would be happy if we could play for the SEC Championship, when's the last time that happened.
 
#48
#48
rexvol said:
for the most part the NFL drafts on talent and upside, just like every pro sport. All these players in the NFL just proves that Tennessee has had many players with ability, but our coaches have done very little with them. Of course some luck is involved along the way, but luck is not the dominant factor in a team that consistently competes for a championship.
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If you really believe this maybe UT football ain't your thing. Good luck.
 
#49
#49
rexvol said:
PAC 10 or MAC or WAC, USC is still a 2 time Natl Champ under Pete. Just because they play in the PAC 10 (a weak conf) doesnt mean they have to give those crystal footballs back. I would be happy if we could play for the SEC Championship, when's the last time that happened.
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