Big Brother 18 - May the Most Devious SOB Win

#554
#554
Holy ****, CBS is so stupid. Of course Morgan is going to win because it is a 3-way vote and the LNJ allies are gonna split their fan base. Jason probably beats Morgan close to 2:1 if it's a 2-way vote.

Two seasons in a row, the weird, entertaining guy who plays the best game loses to the blond, boring girl who did OK.
 
#556
#556
I watched Dr. Will’s first season and here are my thoughts:

He is kind of a strange guy. I can’t tell if he’s a sociopath or what and his taste in women is horrible. I was expecting to like him personally, but I was mostly indifferent.

There has been some debate about how Derrick compares to Will, but it’s sort of apples and oranges. The game has evolved, for better or for worse. For example, people in season 2 were a lot more trusting than they are today, there was no veto, no jury house, and other key differences.

Will was awesome because he told people he was lying to them and that openness essentially got him through the game. Derrick actually controlled the nominations and votes a lot. Will didn’t really do any of that but he also didn’t have someone like Cody to win comps for him. To Derrick’s credit, Cody took Derrick to the finals because of their alliance, whereas Nicole took Will to the finals because she thought it gave her a better chance to win.

Will put a huge target on his back and then weathered the storm, which worked out brilliantly, because he kept on getting a pass while the house was voting out more likable people. I’d say Will and Derrick are pretty even. Both of them were great psychological players. FWIW, even Boogie said Nicole played the best game in Season 2 but then he voted for Will.

I am now watching BB All-Stars, and Will is the only winner, so I’m excited to see how he pulls it off this time. This is probably where his legend is really built.
 
#558
#558
I'm weird and a bit of a sociopath, so maybe that's I like him. But yeah Will and Dereks games are pretty different. Will didn't try to win comps, told people he would backstab them, told them to put him up (only 1 vote against in 3 evictions I think season 2) Stood up told the house to go **** themselves basically and still got zero votes. Derek worked his ass off to never even be mentioned for the block. Convinced a lot of people he had their back then cut them. Will won with some weird ****head charm, while Derek won with probably the best strategic game ever.

Season 7 is impressive cause he had the biggest target anyone has ever had, played the same game, with everyone knowing what he was doing
and still made final 4, taking his 4 person alliance all to the final 4 and handing Boogie a win
He never scrambled, he just chilled, and mind ****ed people.

For me to put Derek up with Will he needs to play again, and see how he does with everyone knowing his game. Will was helped in season 2 by it being a new game, but Derek lurked in the shadows. He wouldn't be able to do that a second time...or maybe he could.
 
#560
#560
the best!

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#563
#563
n_huffhines said:
I would hang with chill town but chill town is the dumbest name ever
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It is pretty meh, but man there has some been some stupid one's over the years. "Shelltown" "The Moving Company" etc...and the worst and creepiest..."The Friendship"
 
#566
#566
BadJerry20 said:
I'm not talking about Paul, it was season 6. It was like a cop or firefighter I think and 4 or 5 girls. The name just sounds very cult like to me. Plus they were just weird as ****. Lol
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You're talking about Cappy, Maggie, and Ivette. Can't believe Maggie won. Ridiculous.

Sovereign 6 from the same season was also a cult-like name.
 
#568
#568
BadJerry20 said:
Yep...poor James, he was the original Frank.
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And Janelle. She got all the way to the end. She was just gaming people, both socially and in competitions (but mostly after James got booted) and then she loses because the final HoH competition is that ridiculously dumb game they play every season. I seriously hate it so much.
 
#569
#569
n_huffhines said:
And Janelle. She got all the way to the end. She was just gaming people, both socially and in competitions (but mostly after James got booted) and then she loses because the final HoH competition is that ridiculously dumb game they play every season. I seriously hate it so much.
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Which one? The face mash up?
 
#571
#571
n_huffhines said:
And Janelle. She got all the way to the end. She was just gaming people, both socially and in competitions (but mostly after James got booted) and then she loses because the final HoH competition is that ridiculously dumb game they play every season. I seriously hate it so much.
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I remember seeing Janelle and thinking, "she's gonna suck so bad" She was a beast though. On the flip side I thought Kaysar seemed highly intelligent and thought he would do well...then he made the dumbest decision in BB history.
 
#573
#573
BadJerry20 said:
I remember seeing Janelle and thinking, "she's gonna suck so bad" She was a beast though. On the flip side I thought Kaysar seemed highly intelligent and thought he would do well...then he made the dumbest decision in BB history.
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Yeah, IDK what Kaysar's problem is. He is really disappointing on All-Stars.

Janelle totally seems like a dumb girl on the surface and I would even go as far to say that is her actual personality, but there is a lot more to her than that. She reads most people very well and she always knows how to push the right buttons.

When she was in the final 4 and was HoH, she subtly created tons of drama between the other 3 who had been allies all along. She did it in a way where they didn't even realize she was the one putting seeds of doubt in their minds.
 
#574
#574
For some reason I was under the impression that Dr. Will won All-Stars. I don't know if you guys told me that or what, but he got 4th place. Basically Janelle and James spent all season trying to get each other out and the week after James went to jury, Janelle evicted Will.

Will played a great social game again but he got carried away. He and Boogie told like 4 different people they were the only other member of Chilltown and that might have been the difference between her keeping him or not.
 
#575
#575
Honestly I think Will wasn't trying to win, I think he was just trying to get Mike the win. It's been a while since I watched it, but that was the feeling I had.
 
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