Big Brother Is Watching

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It's finally happening, big time. Big Brother...or Little Brothers are watching. Today's "Smart" computers and televisions come complete with both microphones and cameras. As one might suspect, they can be hacked, enabling others to watch you and listen to you inside your home. You can turn off the features, and the hacker can turn them back on, without your knowing. There may come a time when all new computers and TVs have these invasive features.
 
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therealUT said:
These are devices that one willingly chooses to purchase and place in one's home, correct?
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Yes. However, that may be changing. Unless buyers settle for older technology, they soon may have little or no choice. When I recently did a little internet computer shopping, it seemed like all of the new models had the interactive audio and video features. That can't be totally true, but my impression was that's definitely the way things were going.

Add that many new cell phones and automobiles have tracking features. Purchases made with plastic can be monitored. That even includes purchases with cash if a store card is used.
 
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therealUT said:
These are devices that one willingly chooses to purchase and place in one's home, correct?
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So you're cool with people just walking in your home or hopping in the backseat of your car whenever? Lol of course you are.
 
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govols/cc said:
So you're cool with people just walking in your home or hopping in the backseat of your car whenever? Lol of course you are.
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No, I am just not going to freak out about some "big brother" bull **** when it is coming through some device that do not need and that I knowingly and willingly purchase.
 
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therealUT said:
No, I am just not going to freak out about some "big brother" bull **** when it is coming through some device that do not need and that I knowingly and willingly purchase.
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When we knowingly and willingly purchased it there was an expectation this wouldn't happen. Just because it can happen, doesn't mean we shouldn't be upset for the intrusion of privacy simply because we purchased these items.
 
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therealUT said:
No, I am just not going to freak out about some "big brother" bull **** when it is coming through some device that do not need and that I knowingly and willingly purchase.
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I'm not freaking out but its an invasion of privacy no matter how you look at it. Because I willingly purchase something it shouldn't diminish any right I have.
 
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most hackers won't bother you if you're protected by a hardware firewall

sadly, most people think that the built-in software protection is enough
 
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rjd970 said:
When we knowingly and willingly purchased it there was an expectation this wouldn't happen. Just because it can happen, doesn't mean we shouldn't be upset for the intrusion of privacy simply because we purchased these items.
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govols/cc said:
I'm not freaking out but its an invasion of privacy no matter how you look at it. Because I willingly purchase something it shouldn't diminish any right I have.
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The features Vol Main is speaking of are no more invasive than windows on a house. Sure, some ******* can go through the trouble to get a telescope and sensitive listening equipment, but the window is not an invasive feature. The ******* is invasive; just as the hacker is invasive.

I routinely walk nude from my bedroom to my kitchen every morning in order to put a kettle of water on the stove for my coffee. The shades are never drawn in the living room and anyone who is up at 5am could easily look into my windows and see me in the buff. I don't care.

If someone wants to turn the audio and video on my computer on and see me nude or hear me having any conversation whatever with my wife and/or friends, so be it. That invasive ******* is wasting their time, in my opinion.

I have a solid bank (USAA) that notifies me when unusual purchases occur. A few months ago, someone used my credit card number to purchase something at a target in Texas. USAA notified me, cancelled the purchase, and sent me a new card with a new number. I did not lose a minute of thought on the incident.

In my opinion, there are much greater things to worry about than whether someone sees you naked, steals your credit card, or hears an intimate conversation. Maybe I realize that my life is pretty mundane and my money is not really worth getting to upset about. You people with exciting lives which are tied to your money, maybe you guys are really worried that someone is going to be able to steal your excitement and your worth?

If you are really, really worried that someone is going to invade your privacy through these devices, then just don't buy them. I would also recommend purchasing a house without windows, since peeping toms have been around forever.
 
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rjd970 said:
When we knowingly and willingly purchased it there was an expectation this wouldn't happen. Just because it can happen, doesn't mean we shouldn't be upset for the intrusion of privacy simply because we purchased these items.
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Exactly. Consumers make purchases expecting an acceptable level of privacy, which is a fundamental right. How many actually think that products widely marketed can and do violate that right, without their knowledge and consent...against their will?
 
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therealUT said:
The features Vol Main is speaking of are no more invasive than windows on a house. Sure, some ******* can go through the trouble to get a telescope and sensitive listening equipment, but the window is not an invasive feature. The ******* is invasive; just as the hacker is invasive.

I routinely walk nude from my bedroom to my kitchen every morning in order to put a kettle of water on the stove for my coffee. The shades are never drawn in the living room and anyone who is up at 5am could easily look into my windows and see me in the buff. I don't care.

If someone wants to turn the audio and video on my computer on and see me nude or hear me having any conversation whatever with my wife and/or friends, so be it. That invasive ******* is wasting their time, in my opinion.

I have a solid bank (USAA) that notifies me when unusual purchases occur. A few months ago, someone used my credit card number to purchase something at a target in Texas. USAA notified me, cancelled the purchase, and sent me a new card with a new number. I did not lose a minute of thought on the incident.

In my opinion, there are much greater things to worry about than whether someone sees you naked, steals your credit card, or hears an intimate conversation. Maybe I realize that my life is pretty mundane and my money is not really worth getting to upset about. You people with exciting lives which are tied to your money, maybe you guys are really worried that someone is going to be able to steal your excitement and your worth?

If you are really, really worried that someone is going to invade your privacy through these devices, then just don't buy them. I would also recommend purchasing a house without windows, since peeping toms have been around forever.
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I can shoot through my window, not through the Internet.
 
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govols/cc said:
I can shoot through my window, not through the Internet.
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reasonable precautions regarding your network security are all that is needed to keep Big Brother at bay

you and vol main are being paranoid for no reason
 
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therealUT said:
No, I am just not going to freak out about some "big brother" bull **** when it is coming through some device that do not need and that I knowingly and willingly purchase.
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Nobody asked you to freak out. It is not all about you, but since you raise the subject of you, let's mention a few things about you. Had I posted supporting these invasive technologies... you would post against the technologies, against me for supporting them, and against the "ignorant masses" for not protesting them.
 
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MG1968 said:
reasonable precautions regarding your network security are all that is needed to keep Big Brother at bay

you and vol main are being paranoid for no reason
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I don't know why you choose to think that, but it is not true. You can take all of the normal precautions (password protection, firewall, security programs, user settings, etc.) and still be hacked. Using those precautions blocks a high percentage of threats, so people should use them all. Bottom line is that the only fail proof way to protect a computer is to never plug it in and turn it on.
 
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Vol Main said:
I don't know why you choose to think that, but it is not true. You can take all of the normal precautions (password protection, firewall, security programs, user settings, etc.) and still be hacked. Using those precautions blocks a high percentage of threats, so people should use them all. Bottom line is that the only fail proof way to protect a computer is to never plug it in and turn it on.
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Just like the only sure way to prevent pregnancy is to not have sex.

Life is full of risk, there's no way to avoid it. However, screeching like Alex Jones and changing your screen name to "THX-1138" does nothing to mitigate the risks.
 
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MG1968 said:
most hackers won't bother you if you're protected by a hardware firewall

sadly, most people think that the built-in software protection is enough
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Exactly. Spend some money and buy a good router. Spend some time and learn what the settings are. Then make a password that isn't 123456789 and ditch the worry. I can scan my neighborhood wifi with my phone and its funny that everyone (but me) is always on the default channels..makes me think their passwords are probably admin/admin.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Exactly. Spend some money and buy a good router. Spend some time and learn what the settings are. Then make a password that isn't 123456789 and ditch the worry. I can scan my neighborhood wifi with my phone and its funny that everyone (but me) is always on the default channels..makes me think their passwords are probably admin/admin.
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smh
 
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therealUT said:
No, I am just not going to freak out about some "big brother" bull **** when it is coming through some device that do not need and that I knowingly and willingly purchase.
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So if someone plants a bomb in a device or poisons food that you knowingly and willingly purchase and take home that's ok right? And don't say people know this can happen with these devices because I guarantee most do not.
 
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