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#451
#451
Pepe said:
Tyler has manipulated the entire house during the whole game and that is the name of the game
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Disagree. There are lots of ways to get to the end. Apart from Derrick, I can't remember anybody who got to final having a big impact on the game and having no enemies. That's harder to do than it is to lie your way to the end. Promising final 2's to everybody is kinda bush league, if you ask me.
 
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#452
#452
Pepe said:
Tyler has manipulated the entire house during the whole game and that is the name of the game
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That's part of it, definitely not all of it, just ask Paul.

I think Tyler's game is closest to Haydens (as far as winners) and since him, I would say the biggest manipulator has won once, Derrick. Rachel, Josh, Nicole, Andy, and Ian (besides Boogie) didn't really manipulate anyone maybe a couple people for Andy. I don't really remember Steve or his season TBF.
 
#453
#453
n_huffhines said:
Disagree. There are lots of ways to get to the end. Apart from Derrick, I can't remember anybody who got to final having a big impact on the game and having no enemies. That's harder to do than it is to lie your way to the end. Promising final 2's to everybody is kinda bush league, if you ask me.
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I agree, but to be fair I don't think Tyler approached anyone about a final 2, they all, except Kaycee, came to him I believe.

Derrick feels like he's in game mode when he's just having random conversations, like at the Nicole and Victor thing. I want him to play again so bad.
 
#454
#454
n_huffhines said:
Disagree. There are lots of ways to get to the end. Apart from Derrick, I can't remember anybody who got to final having a big impact on the game and having no enemies. That's harder to do than it is to lie your way to the end. Promising final 2's to everybody is kinda bush league, if you ask me.
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Promising top twos was not the only thing he did. He had influence on every single nomination and even influenced some of the competitions. He even managed to conceal the fact that he made those talk to arrangements with everybody. I barely remember Derek, except that he was kind of boring. The difference in this season is that it did not have anybody with much personality that was able to Escape Tyler's machinations. The thing isthat will hurt Tyler most in the jury is that he flew too much under the radar. He did a great job of transferring the blame for all of his decisions to other people. The only person that he was not able to influence was Haliegh who was so focused on her hormonal imbalance involving Faisal that she was blind to her game play. I agree that Casey is going to win just simply because she was friendly toward everyone and did a great job on the competitions. But she was not a mastermind except that she was smart enough that she was able to identify the true Mastermind of the game and ride with him to the end..
 
#455
#455
BadJerry20 said:
I agree, but to be fair I don't think Tyler approached anyone about a final 2, they all, except Kaycee, came to him I believe.

Derrick feels like he's in game mode when he's just having random conversations, like at the Nicole and Victor thing. I want him to play again so bad.
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I hate repeat competitors makes it boring
 
#456
#456
Pepe said:
I hate repeat competitors makes it boring
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Depends on how it's done, I'd prefer an all out All Stars season. The 3 seasons prior to this one were pretty damn boring to me, and this one faded down the stretch. I only really care to see great players play again, just to see how they evolve or if they can use the same style of play again.
 
#457
#457
Wait, you are pumping up Tyler while calling Derrick boring? Lol Tyler is sleepy time medicine, such a bland personality.
 
#458
#458
BadJerry20 said:
That's part of it, definitely not all of it, just ask Paul.

I think Tyler's game is closest to Haydens (as far as winners) and since him, I would say the biggest manipulator has won once, Derrick. Rachel, Josh, Nicole, Andy, and Ian (besides Boogie) didn't really manipulate anyone maybe a couple people for Andy. I don't really remember Steve or his season TBF.
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With Paul his manipulation was too obvious, besides he was just a sleazy character anyway. The biggest reason he got as far as he did was that he made quick enemies of the most and likeable pair in the history of the game.
 
#459
#459
Pepe said:
With Paul his manipulation was too obvious, besides he was just a sleazy character anyway. The biggest reason he got as far as he did was that he made quick enemies of the most and likeable pair in the history of the game.
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The reason he got as far as he did, is BB cast a bunch of fans to try and get him the win, gave him immunity for half the year, and he still botched it. IIRC 5000 final 2 deals was kind of his undoing. Also Cody and Jess are pretty well liked outside of this thread. You are thinking Brenden and Rachel as the most unlikable pair. Lol
 
#460
#460
BadJerry20 said:
Wait, you are pumping up Tyler while calling Derrick boring? Lol Tyler is sleepy time medicine, such a bland personality.
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I'll agree that this was probably the most boring season yet. But I think that is more due to the rest of the cast there was not a legitimate counter to Tyler's game, except for maybe swaggy C but I was still glad to see him go
 
#461
#461
BadJerry20 said:
The reason he got as far as he did, is BB cast a bunch of fans to try and get him the win, gave him immunity for half the year, and he still botched it. IIRC 5000 final 2 deals was kind of his undoing. Also Cody and Jess are pretty well liked outside of this thread. You are thinking Brenden and Rachel as the most unlikable pair. Lol
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Cody was pretty unlikeable in his season. I've liked him much better since he got out of the house. Thought him and Jess were great on Amazing Race.
 
#462
#462
Pepe said:
I'll agree that this was probably the most boring season yet. But I think that is more due to the rest of the cast there was not a legitimate counter to Tyler's game, except for maybe swaggy C but I was still glad to see him go
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Most boring? I really enjoyed this season until it started winding down. For me, it always gets a bit boring when they get to the last 4-5 HGs left.
 
#463
#463
Weezer said:
Cody was pretty unlikeable in his season. I've liked him much better since he got out of the house. Thought him and Jess were great on Amazing Race.
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Cody was not so bad if Jess had not been around. She made him into a bit of a prick
 
#464
#464
Pepe said:
I'll agree that this was probably the most boring season yet. But I think that is more due to the rest of the cast there was not a legitimate counter to Tyler's game, except for maybe swaggy C but I was still glad to see him go
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All of the dynamic and crazy personalities got out early too. Outside of Brett, level 6 is one painfully boring group of people.
 
#465
#465
Weezer said:
Cody was pretty unlikeable in his season. I've liked him much better since he got out of the house. Thought him and Jess were great on Amazing Race.
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I liked Cody day 1, he was so crazy serious it made me chuckle. Plus he gave no ****s about Paul while everyone else constantly worshipped him.
 
#468
#468
BadJerry20 said:
The reason he got as far as he did, is BB cast a bunch of fans to try and get him the win, gave him immunity for half the year, and he still botched it. IIRC 5000 final 2 deals was kind of his undoing. Also Cody and Jess are pretty well liked outside of this thread. You are thinking Brenden and Rachel as the most unlikable pair. Lol
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Brendon and Rachel were unlikable as individuals. Got your Cody and Jess to work to me and likable just because they were a bad pairing. Cody knew that Jess was a big biatch but stuck by her because it was his duty. That was also the case in The Amazing Race. I remember a couple of instances iin The Amazing Race where Jess did something and then Cody just rolled his eyes and went along with what she had done to somebody else that was completely unethical by any definition. My biggest problem with Jess was that she cried when somebody else did it to her.
 
#469
#469
Unpopular opinion I want a full all stars of...Hayden, Derrick, Cody, Ian, Andy, Zach, Victor, Tyler and Amanda, Rachel, Janelle, Alex, Vanessa, Jess, Daniele D and the love of my life Britt.
 
#470
#470
BadJerry20 said:
Unpopular opinion I want a full all stars of...Hayden, Derrick, Cody, Ian, Andy, Zach, Victor, Tyler and Amanda, Rachel, Janelle, Alex, Vanessa, Jess, Daniele D and the love of my life Britt.
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The only return I'd like to see Dirty Dick. Mainly because I can relate to him and his attitude toward the game.
 
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#471
#471
Pepe said:
Brendon and Rachel were unlikable as individuals. Got your Cody and Jess to work to me and likable just because they were a bad pairing. Cody knew that Jess was a big biatch but stuck by her because it was his duty. That was also the case in The Amazing Race. I remember a couple of instances iin The Amazing Race where Jess did something and then Cody just rolled his eyes and went along with what she had done to somebody else that was completely unethical by any definition. My biggest problem with Jess was that she cried when somebody else did it to her.
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Brenden and Rachel were pretty awful together. He's such a cuck, his incessant baby oh baby what's wrong baby I love you baby was maddening. Then throw in but Brennnndennnnn all the time, I want to choke them both and not in a fun way.

Jess and Cody on the other hand would most definitely get the fun choking.
 
#474
#474
BadJerry20 said:
I liked Cody day 1, he was so crazy serious it made me chuckle. Plus he gave no ****s about Paul while everyone else constantly worshipped him.
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But he showed no intelligence in the way he went After Paul.. I think even a casual viewer of the show should know that when you have a strong personality Clash with someone you hide it at least for a while. You don't declare war on the first day
 
#475
#475
Pepe said:
But he showed no intelligence in the way he went After Paul.
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Oh I agree, but at least he went after him. Then BB made sure that wouldn't again for weeks, God I hated that season so much. The only saving grace was BB not getting what it wanted in the end, and Cody being the nail in the coffin for Paul.
 
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