Bill Maher is an idiot

#26
#26
TennTradition said:
Water use is a very fair attack of biofuels, in general. Land-use is as well. Making biofuel from existing celluosic feedstock, like corn stover or other wastes, is generally fine in this area. Swithgrass may not be, however, depending on where/how it is grown. This is one reason why closed loop systems for algae growth (to produce biodiesel, perhaps) are interesting to me.
Click to expand...

i have no problem with biodiesel technology. some of that makes a lot of sense. i have no problem with anything that might work, but i just dont' see it in ethanol and a lot of the support and the ethanol mandate seems purely political.
 
#27
#27
droski said:
as i indicated in my prior post, ethanol from any product is environmentally abusive. ther is also solid evidence that it is not not better for the environment after consumption than gas. the real question is why ethanol? besides helping out the farmers that is.
Click to expand...

I think the first answer to why ethanol was that we had a good handle on the bio-conversion of sugars to ethanol (centuries of practice). So, as opposed to butanol or ethylmethyl ether, for example, ethanol was ready to go. If conversion to these other fuels can be figured out fully, they would be the better way to go. I think we will and you will see ethanol go by the way-side as a primary biofuel as a result.

However, I will point to corn stover again as a source of ethanol that is not abusive to the environment ... it's a waste (except for that which goes to make bedding for livestock), and ethanol could be made from it. If ethanol is kept at around 10% in the fuel, I haven't seen anything too damning about emissions. I have talked with people that worry about higher concentrations.

The merits of off-setting only 10% of your transportation fuel is a valid point of discussion, IMO.
 
#28
#28
droski said:
i have no problem with biodiesel technology. some of that makes a lot of sense. i have no problem with anything that might work, but i just dont' see it in ethanol and a lot of the support and the ethanol mandate seems purely political.
Click to expand...

I agree that a lot of the support for ethanol is purely political.
 
#35
#35
obama certainly isn't and i have zero doubt that he voted for our chief socialist.
 
#37
#37
I think making the claim that Brazil "got off oil 30 years ago" shows Maher to be an idiot far more than Will's assertion that wind turbines kill more birds than the Exxon Valdez oil spill.

After all, isn't one of the primary reasons why wind farms are protested by the eco-fascists is the fact that they allegedly kill so many birds?
 
#39
#39
UPDATE: Bill Maher still an idiot:

HBO's Bill Maher: "I thought when we elected a black president, we were going to get a black president. You know, this [BP oil spill] is where I want a real black president. I want him in a meeting with the BP CEOs, you know, where he lifts up his shirt where you can see the gun in his pants. That's -- (in black man voice) we've got a '************* problem here?' Shoot somebody in the foot."
Click to expand...
 
#42
#42
HBO's Bill Maher: "I thought when we elected a black president, we were going to get a black president. You know, this [BP oil spill] is where I want a real black president. I want him in a meeting with the BP CEOs, you know, where he lifts up his shirt where you can see the gun in his pants. That's -- (in black man voice) we've got a '************* problem here?' Shoot somebody in the foot."
Click to expand...

picard-face-palm.gif
 
#45
#45
GAVol said:
UPDATE: Bill Maher still an idiot:
Click to expand...

I'm not one to defend Maher, but you don't really think that was a serious comment do you? The job of every comedian is to find a line and deliberately and loudly cross it.
 
#46
#46
rjd970 said:
I'm not one to defend Maher, but you don't really think that was a serious comment do you? The job of every comedian is to find a line and deliberately and loudly cross it.
Click to expand...
Of course it is . . . but if you're going to cross that line, it had better be hysterically funny and I don't think this one got there for him.
 
#47
#47
rjd970 said:
I'm not one to defend Maher, but you don't really think that was a serious comment do you? The job of every comedian is to find a line and deliberately and loudly cross it.
Click to expand...

Dennis Miller is a comedian too, do you think he could have gotten away with this?

take it one step further and have Miller say it during his weekly segment on Bill O'Reilly's show. The hysterical leftists like LG would be shouting from the treetops.
 
#48
#48
rjd970 said:
I'm not one to defend Maher, but you don't really think that was a serious comment do you? The job of every comedian is to find a line and deliberately and loudly cross it.
Click to expand...

I hate PC crap so I won't blast him too hard for this but:

1. He conveniently hides behind "comedian" with controversial statements while being a political commentator for other comments. I remember his musings about how less people would be dead if Cheney had been killed and even though he said "I'm serious" it was passed off as a joke. At the same time the right-wing witch Ann Coulter make a joke about John Edwards being gay and it was clearly a joke but she was attacked for being a hater since she is a political commentator and he's a comedian.

2. There is a tremendous double standard with racially sensitive comments.

Bottomline, I'd like to see equal and limited reaction to statements like this.
 
#49
#49
volinbham said:
I hate PC crap so I won't blast him too hard for this but:

1. He conveniently hides behind "comedian" with controversial statements while being a political commentator for other comments. I remember his musings about how less people would be dead if Cheney had been killed and even though he said "I'm serious" it was passed off as a joke. At the same time the right-wing witch Ann Coulter make a joke about John Edwards being gay and it was clearly a joke but she was attacked for being a hater since she is a political commentator and he's a comedian.

2. There is a tremendous double standard with racially sensitive comments.

Bottomline, I'd like to see equal and limited reaction to statements like this.
Click to expand...

As compaired to this from Beck.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-green/glenn-beck-attacks-11-yea_b_594533.html
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top