Bill's Baseball Thread [Experts ONLY]

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GordonC said:
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You weren't asking me, but I've read Summer of '49 by him. I also I think his book The Fifties is top notch narrative history. Agreed. He was a great writer.
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Both of those are great. The Best and the Brightest and The Children as well.

I was living in San Francisco when he was in town doing research for a book and was killed in a car accident.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Pujols has 310 extra base hits in 31-35 years. Griffey had 189. Both had almost same average. Neither was playing great defense.

Is this period enough for Pujols to pass Griffey?
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I don’t know. They were both great before the injuries set in. I would say Griffey in the 90s was better than Pujols in the ‘00s, but it was close.

Doesn’t matter really, they were both a treat to watch.
 
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NorCalVol67 said:
@volfanbill, have you read October ‘64 by Halberstam? Great book by a great writer.
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I have not. Nor have I read the books mentioned by @GordonC

However, and maybe I shouldn't bring this up to taxpayers, but it looks like my new assignment is more a "watch" type job than anything and I'm going to have PLENTY of reading time...
 
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NorCalVol67 said:
I don’t know. They were both great before the injuries set in. I would say Griffey in the 90s was better than Pujols in the ‘00s, but it was close.

Doesn’t matter really, they were both a treat to watch.
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It could be semantics exercise. Griffey was better player and Pujols had better career...
 
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volfanbill said:
I have not. Nor have I read the books mentioned by @GordonC

However, and maybe I shouldn't bring this up to taxpayers, but it looks like my new assignment is more a "watch" type job than anything and I'm going to have PLENTY of reading time...
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As a baseball fan, read Summer of ‘49 and October ‘64. And Ball Four by Jim Bouton if you haven’t read that.
 
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VolNExile said:
And I'll add that they all wish they were pitchers. I'm always amazed when I watch minor league ball (singe-A) at how good the batting is, but the pitching is definitely the weak link. Half-way decent pitchers get moved up.
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Don’t want to derail the kickball thread too badly so I’m moving this tldr response here…

When the Cardinals traded for Larry Walker for three minor league pitchers, it meant what little pitching our Rookie level squad had were called up to the higher division minors. The season effectively ended that day. They couldn’t get outs to save their lives after that. Those poor pitchers playing for crumbs and getting lit up night in and night out
 
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@vollygirl, please forgive me, but I want to get this off my chest…

Tbf, he wasn’t the only one being a Richard. I can take it just fine when the other one starts bad mouthing me, insulting me, and calling me bad names only to then blame me. But the past two days he was doing it to completely innocent others. I’m not condoning how I nor Behr responds to him, especially if ever done in that thread, but there was a lot of unacceptable behavior over the weekend that wasn’t Zoner style.

And I’m not speaking for you @Behr just voicing my opinion
 
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volfanbill said:
@vollygirl, please forgive me, but I want to get this off my chest…

Tbf, he wasn’t the only one being a Richard. I can take it just fine when the other one starts bad mouthing me, insulting me, and calling me bad names only to then blame me. But the past two days he was doing it to completely innocent others. I’m not condoning how I nor Behr responds to him, especially if ever done in that thread, but there was a lot of unacceptable behavior over the weekend that wasn’t Zoner style.

And I’m not speaking for you @Behr just voicing my opinion
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I don't disagree with you. And that particular issue was solved.

All I asked was that people not keep going about it in that thread, to play somewhere else, and that was an issue too.
 
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vollygirl said:
I don't disagree with you. And that particular issue was solved.

All I asked was that people not keep going about it in that thread, to play somewhere else, and that was an issue too.
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Others were still "playing" in the prayer thread and I was a petty smart-ass. You deleted my petty comment and sent me a private message. I responded publicly and rudely. You responded to my response.

That accurate? If so maybe we can all sleep now and move on.
 
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Behr said:
Others were still "playing" in the prayer thread and I was a petty smart-ass. You deleted my petty comment and sent me a private message. I responded publicly and rudely. You responded to my response.

That accurate? If so maybe we can all sleep now and move on.
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No
 
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I’m starting to think my late night comment last night was a few minutes too late. That or ignored and that I’ve also missed stuff
 
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