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#52
The Dude said:
I don't know, but I was reponding to your claim that any Dem would outspend Bush. Don't let facts get in the way of your claims or anything.
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Not to get in the way of your arrogant yet untrue statement, the Dems as I've said before are for bigger government than Bush ever dreamed of. Bigger government + universal healthcare = out of control spending the likes of which we've never seen. If you need to me to clue you in on anything else, please let me know. I'm here to help.
 
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#53
volsforever27 said:
Not to get in the way of your arrogant yet untrue statement, the Dems as I've said before are for bigger government than Bush ever dreamed of.
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Yet Bush has spent more that anyone. And how is my statement untrue exactly?

volsforever27 said:
Bigger government + universal healthcare = out of control spending the likes of which we've never seen. If you need to me to clue you in on anything else, please let me know. I'm here to help.
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You're not presenting any facts, just your ideas that do not line up with the actual numbers. I have no interest in picking your witless brain, no.
 
#54
#54
The Dude said:
Yet Bush has spent more that anyone. And how is my statement untrue exactly?



You're not presenting any facts, just your ideas that do not line up with the actual numbers. I have no interest in picking your witless brain, no.
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My ideas? You can call me names but you keep ignoring what I'm saying... let me repeat myself, universal health care is bad. I know you can't get a grip on that. Once again, I agree Bush's spending is pathetic. But acting like it will get better with a dem is just absurd. I can go and link to about 100 websites, but you're never going to agree to it. And calling me witless doesn't make any of your body parts any bigger, brain or otherwise.
 
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volsforever27 said:
My ideas? You can call me names but you keep ignoring what I'm saying... let me repeat myself, universal health care is bad. I know you can't get a grip on that. Once again, I agree Bush's spending is pathetic. But acting like it will get better with a dem is just absurd. I can go and link to about 100 websites, but you're never going to agree to it. And calling me witless doesn't make any of your body parts any bigger, brain or otherwise.
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All you want to talk about is supposed party ideology. Each politician should be judged on what he does, not the assumed opinions of each wing.
 
#56
#56
Yeah, its really absurd to think our next president will not outspend a guy who just increased spending more than anyone. So absurd.
 
#57
#57
The Dude said:
All you want to talk about is supposed party ideology. Each politician should be judged on what he does, not the assumed opinions of each wing.
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I'm not basing it on ideology, I'm basing it on what they're saying. Who is wanting to roll back the tax cuts? And for the millionth time who wants to implement MANDANTORY health care? Did you not see the other post that Clinton won't rule out garnishing wages to pay for that? I'm a conservative, I freely admit it. (And no it's not a bad thing).Bush is not a true conservative;I agree with him on some things, but his spending and his stands on immigration, etc drive me nuts. So don't act like I'm a Bush fanatic, I'm far from it.
 
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volsforever27 said:
I'm not basing it on ideology, I'm basing it on what they're saying. Who is wanting to roll back the tax cuts? And for the millionth time who wants to implement MANDANTORY health care? Did you not see the other post that Clinton won't rule out garnishing wages to pay for that? I'm a conservative, I freely admit it. (And no it's not a bad thing).Bush is not a true conservative;I agree with him on some things, but his spending and his stands on immigration, etc drive me nuts. So don't act like I'm a Bush fanatic, I'm far from it.
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What a candidate says is supposedly their ideology.

Bush was only mentioned as an example of how the Republicans can too be big, big spenders. He was the example that you seem to want to forget. No one said you supported him, no one.
 
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volsforever27 said:
Very absurd if you look at what they're already planning on doing once elected.
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Bush painted himself a real conservative during the 2000 race. That didn't turn out right.

If we go by what Hillary Clinton says, she will personally bring every poor person out of destitution and cure AIDS, cancer, and the common cold in 4 years.
 
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#63
The EU is financially a stronger union then the U.S. They have the money to build a stronger army then we have.
 
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#64
how can it be stronger when it's largest economies have high deficits and high unemployment? The Euro is stronger than the US dollar right now, but I don't think that means the EU economy is in better shape/stronger than the US economy.
 
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MG1968 said:
how can it be stronger when it's largest economies have high deficits and high unemployment? The Euro is stronger than the US dollar right now, but I don't think that means the EU economy is in better shape/stronger than the US economy.
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I think it does. Most of the rest of the world prefers Euros to dollars for that very reason.
 
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#66
The Dude said:
What a candidate says is supposedly their ideology.

Bush was only mentioned as an example of how the Republicans can too be big, big spenders. He was the example that you seem to want to forget. No one said you supported him, no one.
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You just said that no one is saying I support him, but then say he's the example I want to forget. Read my other posts... I'm not forgetting. And since you claim I'm all about the ideology, that and their track record are all we have to go on before a politcian is elected. Look at Hillary's stance (as well as Obama's); look at her voting record. THAT is what I'm basing my ideas from. No one is downplaying what Bush has done, even though Iraq did have a lot to do with it, his spending is still terrible in other areas. I'm simply saying if you think Bush is bad, it can (and will IMO) get a whole lot worse.
 
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