Bitter Candy??

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WoodsmanVol

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From the looks of recent things in Nashville, Vandy might be less candy than horehound cough drops. I, for one, am impressed with their play, up to a point. Basically, they lost to Texas due to too many self-inflicted errors. Up to a point? Well, yes. Here's why.

1. Their QB plays backyard football. I don't think you can strategically plan for that. It's unpredictable.
2. When the QB is ON, he's dangerously effective. When off, he's very implosive.
3. Vandy's coach has them playing with confidence, basically that they are the little engine that thinks they can.
4. If they consistently get even Kentucky level talent, and keep this coach, they could end up being a problem.

All told, I like seeing another Tennessee team raising hail and Doc Holidaying out-of-state opponents.
 
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Meh, cocky Vandy is the worst. Their fans are insufferable when they are terrible, but absolutely unbearable when they are decent. They are so freaking arrogant for no good reason.

I don't mind Baby Brother having a decent year occasionally, as long as we get to ruin their season.
 
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I saw a lot of fortunate penalties for Vandy, on 3rd & long Diego throws a pick 6 & TX hit QB late the TD for TX is negated & penalty gave Vandy a 1st down on their way to a score. All legitimate but almost everything in that realm IMO was falling Vandy's way throughout the game. You have games like that and its a recipe for an upset but Texas held on.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Meh, cocky Vandy is the worst. Their fans are insufferable when they are terrible, but absolutely unbearable when they are decent. They are so freaking arrogant for no good reason.

I don't mind Baby Brother having a decent year occasionally, as long as we get to ruin their season.
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While I understand your take on Vandy, and even agree with you, herein lies a truth. We Vols fan are the same. The only difference I see, is in addition to being arrogant when we're successful/good, is many of our fans evolve into canniVols when we're not successful or good.
 
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Diego is a smarter version of Johnny Manziel.
He is very hard to game plan for, but with our D Line rotation and depth I don't think he gets away with the stuff he's gotten away with so far.

Also, YES - our game has been circled on their calendar for a long time. Most years it's win a make a bowl, but I think this year it will mean more to them for a chance to ruin our CFP hopes and knock out another top 5 team.
 
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IndianaVol said:
Diego is a smarter version of Johnny Manziel.
He is very hard to game plan for, but with our D Line rotation and depth I don't think he gets away with the stuff he's gotten away with so far.

Also, YES - our game has been circled on their calendar for a long time. Most years it's win a make a bowl, but I think this year it will mean more to them for a chance to ruin our CFP hopes and knock out another top 5 team.
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Well, yeah, I want our Vols to beat their pants, shoes, underpants off. Yet what you said of them is the same for us when it comes to Bama, Ga, or Fla.
We're all cut from the same cloth, so to speak.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
While I understand your take on Vandy, and even agree with you, herein lies a truth. We Vols fan are the same. The only difference I see, is in addition to being arrogant when we're successful/good, is many of our fans evolve into canniVols when we're not successful or good.
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I disagree. While we do seem to have a tendency… especially with some who get their joy out of being a BegaVol… to turn on ourselves (I blamed the last three coaches and the administration for creating BVS), Vanderbilt and Alabama are on a whole nother level of insufferable arrogance. You have to live in Nashville and travel through Alabama to understand.
 
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CDB said:
I disagree. While we do seem to have a tendency… especially with some who get their joy out of being a BegaVol… to turn on ourselves (I blamed the last three coaches and the administration for creating BVS), Vanderbilt and Alabama are on a whole nother level of insufferable arrogance. You have to live in Nashville and travel through Alabama to understand.
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I have done both. In my travels there and elsewhere, N, S, E, and W, I have learned an ultimate truth. Humans gonna human.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Meh, cocky Vandy is the worst. Their fans are insufferable when they are terrible, but absolutely unbearable when they are decent. They are so freaking arrogant for no good reason.

I don't mind Baby Brother having a decent year occasionally, as long as we get to ruin their season.
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They have ruined our season a couple of times too. We don't want that to happen this year. Gotta be ready.
 
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KTrain said:
I saw a lot of fortunate penalties for Vandy, on 3rd & long Diego throws a pick 6 & TX hit QB late the TD for TX is negated & penalty gave Vandy a 1st down on their way to a score. All legitimate but almost everything in that realm IMO was falling Vandy's way throughout the game. You have games like that and its a recipe for an upset but Texas held on.
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Same during the Bama game. That 4th down bomb, and bunch of pray type passes that were caught.....

For the OP to say they could be a problem if they get UK type recruiting is hilarious.
 
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Golfprovol said:
Same during the Bama game. That 4th down bomb, and bunch of pray type passes that were caught.....

For the OP to say they could be a problem if they get UK type recruiting is hilarious.
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Perhaps, but you overlook why I said that. Their coach is doing more with less, far less than some coaches do with far more. Laugh, maybe ask Bama to laugh with you. You might want to remember some history. The 300 Spartans, alongside 7,000 Greeks held 30,000 Persians at bay. They lost only because a traitor showed the Persians an alternate path for getting behind the defenders. It was the leader (coach) who made their tiny force effective. A tiny bunch of fatigued American troops held the line at Bastogne, Belgium against 410,000 Germans, and prevailed because of their leader, General McAuliffe (coach).
I could cite other examples, but the point is Vandy seems to have a coach who gets more with less. I wouldn't laugh, because history is full of some of the darnest odds defying events that rivals fiction. Arrogance is the downfall of many.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Perhaps, but you overlook why I said that. Their coach is doing more with less, far less than some coaches do with far more. Laugh, maybe ask Bama to laugh with you. You might want to remember some history. The 300 Spartans, alongside 7,000 Greeks held 30,000 Persians at bay. They lost only because a traitor showed the Persians an alternate path for getting behind the defenders. It was the leader (coach) who made their tiny force effective. A tiny bunch of fatigued American troops held the line at Bastogne, Belgium against 410,000 Germans, and prevailed because of their leader, General McAuliffe (coach).
I could cite other examples, but the point is Vandy seems to have a coach who gets more with less. I wouldn't laugh, because history is full of some of the darnest odds defying events that rivals fiction. Arrogance is the downfall of many.
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Getting more out of less once is possible, doing it over and over during a 12 game season is not. Those 300 Spartans only had to win once.
Let's look at more recent history that is more realistic. For 20 years we struggled to win against ranked opponents.....wonder why? You will undoubtedly say our "generals" or coaches could not do more with less, I will say, we didn't have the talent.
Vandy's coach isnt the only one in the country who can get more out of less talented players, but there is a reason those teams dont win the national title. There is a reason when they get into a playoff or a big bowl game, they get hammered and that reason is talent. Because over the course of a season, or a game for that matter, talent wins at much higher % than not.

Vandy may stay in games and may play us tough, but to say they will, or even could, be a problem is a gross overstatement. Yes they played Texas tough yesterday, but if you watched the game, Texas was never in real trouble. You never got the feeling Vandy was going to win, they simply didn't have the talent to constantly move the ball.
 
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Their stadium is a construction zone and all I could think of is the hundreds of millions they will spend on that stadium, while the Titans are about to leave their perfectly good stadium empty that Vandy could be playing in. Not to mention opposing fans usually outnumber theirs every game.
 
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I don't mind Vandy doing good as long we keep beating them. Living in Tide Land I had a blast all week with Bama fans heads exploding over losing to them. It was great.
 
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I think Vandy doing well is a good thing in regards to it will make it hard for the Vols to overlook them. Even the coaches will pay more attention to detail and how the D will defend Pavia's unorthodox play. Remember 2022 when we failed miserably at USCjr. The team re-focused and beat Vandy 56 -0 even though Hooker was out for the season. I remember some saying with Hooker out this is going to be a dog fight.
 
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