Boomer Esiason.... correction Phil Simms

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HalfullVol said:
Um,

he was aligning his statement to the FACT that the Titans offense is terrible and they should take a look at the offense in K'ville that has no problem scoring.

not about CJH going to the NFL.

NFL would quickly figure the CJH scheme out.

get real

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Figuring out not impossible. Stopping it is another story.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I think he was saying our offense wouldn't work in the NFL, which, it wouldn't. That's why I'm not very worried about Heupel leaving for the NFL at any point. It'll be Oklahoma that gets him, if anyone.
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yep, but i think it’s down the road a ways. time heals all wounds, and in the end, everyone wants to go home.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I think he was saying our offense wouldn't work in the NFL, which, it wouldn't. That's why I'm not very worried about Heupel leaving for the NFL at any point. It'll be Oklahoma that gets him, if anyone.
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His bad relationship with OU has been well-documented. He’s in Knoxville for good.
 
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Jake said:
yep, but i think it’s down the road a ways. time heals all wounds, and in the end, everyone wants to go home.
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No they don’t. Vince Dooley was an Auburn grad. Pat Dye was a Georgia grad. Coaching one’s alma isn’t everyone’s goal.

Heupel didn’t grow up in Oklahoma, immersed in OU tradition. He was a JUCO find who played there 2 years and won a NC while restoring the program, then coached there until he got fired. His legacy is sealed there. No reason to go back and tarnish it. He’s not like a Majors or Fulmer who grew up in the state and was baptized in the tradition at an early age.

Heupel is making his own legacy at a tradition-rich program that he’s restored. I think he saw what Stoops did at OU and knows he can be that guy at Tennessee. He’s well on his way.
 
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GregAmsler said:
No they don’t. Vince Dooley was an Auburn grad. Pat Dye was a Georgia grad. Coaching one’s alma isn’t everyone’s goal.

Heupel didn’t grow up in Oklahoma, immersed in OU tradition. He was a JUCO find who played there 2 years and won a NC while restoring the program, then coached there until he got fired. His legacy is sealed there. No reason to go back and tarnish it. He’s not like a Majors or Fulmer who grew up in the state and was baptized in the tradition at an early age.

Heupel is making his own legacy at a tradition-rich program that he’s restored. I think he saw what Stoops did at OU and knows he can be that guy at Tennessee. He’s well on his way.
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You are so right. Heupel is building the foundation for restoring the Vols as a perennial powerhouse and has all the elements he needs to do it. Why would he want to leave without at least one Natty under his belt?
 
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OrngeJuiceJones said:
He's not happy with Oklahoma and how they treated him. Won't be Oklahoma.
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Why would it be anyone/where??? His program is on the way to top recognition. His respect/love whatever by the fans, players, is as good at UT as anybody's I can think of located anywhere else. I don't think that money will be an issue. When this program is successful, it can generate as much money as anybody. I think the powers that run the university finally understand about successful sports being a driving force for the university's success and they will allow the money it takes to keep Hipe and other successful coaches. Coach Hipe can come close to being a "Bear, Satan, Paterno, or any other long term beloved coach". No, why would he go anywhere else?
 
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Jake said:
yep, but i think it’s down the road a ways. time heals all wounds, and in the end, everyone wants to go home.
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Not really. Knoxville may be home. Him playing at Oklahoma and being given the boot as a coach might be enough to keep him away. If that were always true, Saban would’ve left Bama by now.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I'm not so sure about that. I believe I've seen a few teams try it off and on, KC for one. And I might be mistaken, but I think Peyton ran something like it with the Broncos, but it was probably closer to the Leach air raid.
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The splits UT does under Hype is not allowed in NFL
 
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swampfoxfan said:
So you don't know.
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You asked a question I'd already answered. There is nothing fancy about our offense, it's predicated on speed and execution. The speed is less of a factor against a disciplined defense with NFL talent. This is a good thing because it makes it less likely Heupel jets to the NFL. Heupel gets a lot of press for the offense but he clearly a good motivator and team builder. Those are essential traits of good coaches in the college ranks.
 
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GregAmsler said:
His bad relationship with OU has been well-documented. He’s in Knoxville for good.
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If he goes anywhere of his own accord, that's where it will be. I didn't say it was a high likelihood, I just think there is little to no chance he goes to the NFL or another non-Oklahoma college. And Bob Stoops isn't going to live forever, so if he leaves on his own, even if it's a 2% chance, that's where it's most likely to be.
 
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GregAmsler said:
No they don’t. Vince Dooley was an Auburn grad. Pat Dye was a Georgia grad. Coaching one’s alma isn’t everyone’s goal.

Heupel didn’t grow up in Oklahoma, immersed in OU tradition. He was a JUCO find who played there 2 years and won a NC while restoring the program, then coached there until he got fired. His legacy is sealed there. No reason to go back and tarnish it. He’s not like a Majors or Fulmer who grew up in the state and was baptized in the tradition at an early age.

Heupel is making his own legacy at a tradition-rich program that he’s restored. I think he saw what Stoops did at OU and knows he can be that guy at Tennessee. He’s well on his way.
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As long as Stoops is still involved deeply with OU there’s no chance Heupel would go there.
 
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Booty88 said:
Just gave a shout out I think to University of Tennessee or a shot I'm not sure. After the Titans game he said "University of Tennessee, good luck with bringing that offense to the NFL"
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No way in hell you are getting NFL OL to play at that pace.....
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
The secret sauce in our offense is the speed leading to busts and wearing down opponents. Those advantages are going to be significantly reduced facing disciplined, well conditioned NFL defenses on a weekly basis. Trust me, this is good news. It makes it alot less likely we lose him.
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I'd add that the speed also allows for formational shifts that exploit matchups that are favorable for the Offense. That is why we struggled against UGA IMO, their DBs and Safeties matched up well against our WRs and TEs. That coupled with pressure we could not seem to block resulted in no time to make accurate throws.

This supports your point that the spread 'em out and go fast offense is good situationally in the NFL but would need modification to work week to week.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
There's nothing special about stacking receivers, lots of teams do that, what's special about our offense is the speed, it forces mistakes. We've seen what happens when we play a disciplined defense with NFL talent against the Dwags the last two years though, it slows it considerably. The same thing would happen in the NFL. Again, this is good news, it makes him unlikely to leave for an NFL gig.
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I didnt say others didn't stack receivers....my point was him using the faster pace and motioning into the stack....as soon as the receivers are stacked while in motion the snap takes place. The idea is the same theyre trying to make DBs make mistakes. The way they do that is unique and the idea is the same as what our offense is. I even stated their offense isn't exactly like ours....just the principal of the concept is the same. Im not concerned of Huepel leaving at the moment....and im not making an argument for his exact offense working in the NFL. Just adding to the conversation that an NFL offense can use concepts similar to our offense to try and make defenders make mistakes.
 
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HalfullVol said:
Um,

he was aligning his statement to the FACT that the Titans offense is terrible and they should take a look at the offense in K'ville that has no problem scoring.

not about CJH going to the NFL.

NFL would quickly figure the CJH scheme out.

get real

Merry Christmas!
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It’s not that the NFL teams would figure it out. It’s the fact that with limited rosters, you can’t run the same type of offense. It’s the reason the Chip Kelly experiment failed. The basic elements of the offense are to put defenders in conflict. Almost all NFL offenses attempt to do this and attack the weakest element of a defense.
 
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I'm worried why, with the passing offense we have, we didn't get even one of these guys, and Kirby grabbed 2 of the 4 that had been mentioned as possibilities for us.
Dont'e Thornton at Oregon is the last one of the 4 that were mentioned as possibilities for us, but ON3 has him 100% going to either Auburn or Miami. Maybe some more gifted receivers will go into the Portal 2.0 next year that we could sign.
2023 College Football Transfer Portal Wide Receiver Top Players
 
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#73
Our offense could be less effective going forward. Teams and defenses adjust to new schemes--always do.
If we have excellent talent at the skills positions, and offensive line, then we'll be good. At the end of the day it comes
down to how much talent you have--so that even if defenses are accustomed to our pace, we can still excel and score a lot of points.
 
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PACKERVOL said:
I'm worried why, with the passing offense we have, we didn't get even one of these guys, and Kirby grabbed 2 of the 4 that had been mentioned as possibilities for us.
Dont'e Thornton at Oregon is the last one of the 4 that were mentioned as possibilities for us, but ON3 has him 100% going to either Auburn or Miami. Maybe some more gifted receivers will go into the Portal 2.0 next year that we could sign.
2023 College Football Transfer Portal Wide Receiver Top Players
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Take a look at where these guys are from and where they where transferring to. The vast majority are getting closer to home and Knoxville does not do that for the majority of them.
 
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