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#631
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Orangeslice13 said:
They still few fine. That’s just when the get retired.
I’m old and not waiting on them to hurt me.
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My Ons make it about 500 miles. Brooks got to where they only lasted about 300 and that’s when I began the search for something new.

Fwiw, shoes haven’t hurt me. Yet. But I’ve found plenty of ways to hurt myself naturally
 
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#632
volfanbill said:
My Ons make it about 500 miles. Brooks got to where they only lasted about 300 and that’s when I began the search for something new.

Fwiw, shoes haven’t hurt me. Yet. But I’ve found plenty of ways to hurt myself naturally
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I quit Ons over heel pains at the near 300 miles mark. Maybe I had a bad pair. Who knows.
Hokas claims 500-600 miles. I’m not testing that either.
I had a major knee surgery as a young adult and I’m 95% pain free most of the time.
My orthopedic doctor is a little more hard nosed on the subject.
Her suggestion is to retire any shoe at 250 miles to protect the knee. I retire everything at 300 but that’s as far as I’m willing to go. I’m 53 and 200 lbs. I’m not worried about saving a few dollars by going beyond half-life of any shoe.
that’s just me.
You do what you want.
Edit: that last part reads confrontational. That’s not my intent.
Should read “but I understand if you do things differently “
 
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I’ve ran long distance for 12 years. I have enough of a feel to know when to switch. And I can tell how much further Ons last. I use to do sprints in Newtons and they wouldn’t get that far, usually 400 miles. Haven’t been able to get comfortable in them post ankle injury though. The Sauconys I have now are ok, but I’d like to find something even better. My gym/CrossFit shoes are Topo Athletic and they’re good for sprints, but don’t last at all if I use them for such.
 
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volfanbill said:
I’ve ran long distance for 12 years. I have enough of a feel to know when to switch. And I can tell how much further Ons last. I use to do sprints in Newtons and they wouldn’t get that far, usually 400 miles. Haven’t been able to get comfortable in them post ankle injury though. The Sauconys I have now are ok, but I’d like to find something even better. My gym/CrossFit shoes are Topo Athletic and they’re good for sprints, but don’t last at all if I use them for such.
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Shouldn’t this discussion be on the Culinary thread??
 
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#636
Orangeslice13 said:
I quit Ons over heel pains at the near 300 miles mark. Maybe I had a bad pair. Who knows.
Hokas claims 500-600 miles. I’m not testing that either.
I had a major knee surgery as a young adult and I’m 95% pain free most of the time.
My orthopedic doctor is a little more hard nosed on the subject.
Her suggestion is to retire any shoe at 250 miles to protect the knee. I retire everything at 300 but that’s as far as I’m willing to go. I’m 53 and 200 lbs. I’m not worried about saving a few dollars by going beyond half-life of any shoe.
that’s just me.
You do what you want.
Edit: that last part reads confrontational. That’s not my intent.
Should read “but I understand if you do things differently “
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All of Bill's posts read confrontational, no worries.

I want to try Hoka shoes. My only experience has been my flip flops. Datgum colors. Seems the women always get the best colors in running shoes. OC Monster has an orange and white in women's that would solve all my problems. Lol.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I quit Ons over heel pains at the near 300 miles mark. Maybe I had a bad pair. Who knows.
Hokas claims 500-600 miles. I’m not testing that either.
I had a major knee surgery as a young adult and I’m 95% pain free most of the time.
My orthopedic doctor is a little more hard nosed on the subject.
Her suggestion is to retire any shoe at 250 miles to protect the knee. I retire everything at 300 but that’s as far as I’m willing to go. I’m 53 and 200 lbs. I’m not worried about saving a few dollars by going beyond half-life of any shoe.
that’s just me.
You do what you want.
Edit: that last part reads confrontational. That’s not my intent.
Should read “but I understand if you do things differently “
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I know Behr liked the CloudAce. He might still like them, he might not, I dunno. I ran around the block in them when I tried them on at my old DC area running store and thought I loved them. After running in them for actual runs, I found them incredibly uncomfortable. They caused discomfort on the top of my foot. I bought anther pair (different model) simply because I liked the style and I quickly realized I can't even walk around comfortably in them.

But I love running in the Cloudflyers and I love walking around in the Cloudswifts. Walking in the Cloudflyers is only so so. Running in the Cloudswifts is only so so. Different models for different feet types and all. I'm sure Hoka is the same way (just about every running shoe brand is).
 
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#638
Behr said:
All of Bill's posts read confrontational, no worries.

I want to try Hoka shoes. My only experience has been my flip flops. Datgum colors. Seems the women always get the best colors in running shoes. OC Monster has an orange and white in women's that would solve all my problems. Lol.
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People get brand loyalty and I get that.
The manufacturers say the Ons are good for 300-475 miles
The Hoka’s claim 250-500 miles.
The reality is both are good shoes but everyone is different. I broke down a pair of Ons walking in 275 miles. That could be my stride or something else. Who knows. But Hoka’s have allowed me to return to running.
He and I disagree on how you should judge the life of the shoe. He says he can feel them wearing out. I feel like if you feel it then the damage is done.
At the end of the day what works for me might not work for others.
Having said that I too struggle to find shoes that I like how they look. Lol
 
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#639
volfanbill said:
I know Behr liked the CloudAce. He might still like them, he might not, I dunno. I ran around the block in them when I tried them on at my old DC area running store and thought I loved them. After running in them for actual runs, I found them incredibly uncomfortable. They caused discomfort on the top of my foot. I bought anther pair (different model) simply because I liked the style and I quickly realized I can't even walk around comfortably in them.

But I love running in the Cloudflyers and I love walking around in the Cloudswifts. Walking in the Cloudflyers is only so so. Running in the Cloudswifts is only so so. Different models for different feet types and all. I'm sure Hoka is the same way (just about every running shoe brand is).
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absolutely.
It’s amazing how the seemingly little differences can make such a big actual difference 3 miles in.
 
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Another example: I love my Altra Trail Running Shoes (the ones I hike in). They are the Lone Peak models fwiw.

I tried two different pair of the Paradigm models and didn't like them. I think it's the max cushioning factor similar to Hokas. So I've looked at these (less cushioning, very similar design) a hunnert times, but can't pull the trigger:

MEN'S ESCALANTE RACER Road Racing Shoe

I wish I could find them in a store somewhere nearby to at least try them on.
 
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#641
volfanbill said:
Another example: I love my Altra Trail Running Shoes (the ones I hike in). They are the Lone Peak models fwiw.

I tried two different pair of the Paradigm models and didn't like them. I think it's the max cushioning factor similar to Hokas. So I've looked at these (less cushioning, very similar design) a hunnert times, but can't pull the trigger:

MEN'S ESCALANTE RACER Road Racing Shoe

I wish I could find them in a store somewhere nearby to at least try them on.
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I forget, where are you, if anywhere near chattanooga they stock them at Front Runner on Hixson pike.
 
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#644
volfanbill said:
I know Behr liked the CloudAce. He might still like them, he might not, I dunno. I ran around the block in them when I tried them on at my old DC area running store and thought I loved them. After running in them for actual runs, I found them incredibly uncomfortable. They caused discomfort on the top of my foot. I bought anther pair (different model) simply because I liked the style and I quickly realized I can't even walk around comfortably in them.

But I love running in the Cloudflyers and I love walking around in the Cloudswifts. Walking in the Cloudflyers is only so so. Running in the Cloudswifts is only so so. Different models for different feet types and all. I'm sure Hoka is the same way (just about every running shoe brand is).
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I never tried the Ace. I've got, Flyers, Surfer, Stratus and Monster.

@Orangeslice13

Do the Hoka fit true compared to your other shoes? I wear a 9.5 and the ON's fit true to that. I found a pair of Kawan's I think I can live with on sale. I wanna get the right size.
 
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#645
Behr said:
I never tried the Ace. I've got, Flyers, Surfer, Stratus and Monster.

@Orangeslice13

Do the Hoka fit true compared to your other shoes? I wear a 9.5 and the ON's fit true to that. I found a pair of Kawan's I think I can live with on sale. I wanna get the right size.
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I think it’s just like everything else in life. It’s different from person to person. but the Hoka’s fit my feet very well. The Ons do too. Brooks don’t fit me right at all.
 
#646
#646
Orangeslice13 said:
I think it’s just like everything else in life. It’s different from person to person. but the Hoka’s fit my feet very well. The Ons do too. Brooks don’t fit me right at all.
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I wear a 9.5. If I buy On Clouds, Brooks or Adidas I'll buy 9.5. If I buy UA I'll get a 10.0 and Nike I'll a 9.0.

I ordered a 9.5.
 
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#650
I am pleasantly surprised with my Lululemon Blissfeel running shoes. It's not the best pair I've had but they are more durable than my most recent pair of Asics. They were sized small though.
 
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