If we lose (and that is a BIG if) to ND and win out, we will be 7-4 with our 4 losses coming to 4 ranked teams. All 4 teams in the top 18 teams in the nation, 3 in the top 10, and 2 in the top 5. EVERY game we were in till the end. And I think that we will have a shot at ND but we will see. So whoever thinks that we are 7-4 and not getting a bowl bid is crazy. If you want to root for the NC or nothing every year that is fine. You are going to be upset about 99% of the time. I will take a bowl bid over nothing anyday! :twocents: