Bowl Predictions

[lawgator1]

Forgive me if this was posted earlier. I would be fine with this, though I would probably in my heart doubt that W. Va. can hold a candle to UF, Auburn, or UT.

NCAA Football Bowl Predictions - CBS SportsLine.com

 

[hatvol96]

Texas would beat Boise State roughly 1,799 to 3.

 

[tclowers23]

I kind of hope West Va. makes it to the National Championship. They'll get killed by Ohio State and every can see how weak they really were.

 

[cotton]

Doesn't really look that far off of the way I see it, however:

1. I'm not sure that UF and Auburn won't meet in Atlanta, knocking one of them out and opening the door for another 1 loss team from a major conference.

2. WV and UofL will decide that spot Thursday night.

3. The Cal-USC game has yet to be played, but you can pencil the winner into the Rose.

4. It is still undecided which mediocre-to-pretty-good team will emerge from the ACC. BC is as good a bet as any.

5. There are still a couple of chances for one of the teams in the Mnt West that I know nothing about to knock of Boise St, a team which I know nothing about.

 

[lawgator1]

I kind of hope West Va. makes it to the National Championship. They'll get killed by Ohio State and every can see how weak they really were.

Sure seems like TOSU is just plain much better than everyone else this year. Even Michigan has struggled to beat some real nobodies. I suspect that if Michigan beats TOSU in a close one, or one in which TOSU has some legitmate excuse for having lost, then the pollsters and the BCS may not drop them too far ...

One thing seems certain. If there are, say, three or so solid once beatens on the outside looking in at Mich/OSU versus W.Va./Louisville, there is going to be a lot of complaining that the relative ease of the Big East is benefiting them unfairly.

Of course, that complaining is nothing to what it would be if, say, UF snuck in ahead of an unbeaten W.Va. or Louisville, to land a spot in the BCS title game.

I hope the Gators cooperate with the latter scenario to create the controversy, though they would probably in turn end up getting smoked by TOSU, too.

 

[therickbol]

West Virgnia is not as over-rated as most people like to claim. They are the kid at school in the corner who picks his nose-they are easy to pick on. But, their offense is as good as any offense in the country, probably right behind Ohio State. The problem I do see with them is if they were to play a top flight offense like Ohio State then their defense would not be able to slow them down enough. I am not saying they should play in the NC game, but they have done everything you can ask them to do so far and if they finish the season undefeated with wins over Louisville, Pitt, and Rutgers to end the season it will warrant some respect. They havent beat those teams yet though, so we will see.

 

[hatvol96]

Doesn't really look that far off of the way I see it, however:

1. I'm not sure that UF and Auburn won't meet in Atlanta, knocking one of them out and opening the door for another 1 loss team from a major conference.

2. WV and UofL will decide that spot Thursday night.

3. The Cal-USC game has yet to be played, but you can pencil the winner into the Rose.

4. It is still undecided which mediocre-to-pretty-good team will emerge from the ACC. BC is as good a bet as any.

5. There are still a couple of chances for one of the teams in the Mnt West that I know nothing about to knock of Boise St, a team which I know nothing about.

Boise State isn't in the Mountain West. They're in the WAC.

 

[hatvol96]

Cal had better hope that doesn't happen. Michigan will hammer them as badly as we did and it will be in front of a larger audience.

 

[orange+white=heaven]

Nothing exciting at all about the prospect of playing Wisconsin. Let's please get an opponent that recruits would be a little bit interested in seeing us play....



Now see, y'all got me sucked into this bowl business, and I'm nowhere near ready to start thinking about this.

 

[lawgator1]

How would you guys feel about the projection of the Cap I Bowl? Seems to me to be a lot less than you deseve, if you win out from here. But, I guess if Florida and Auburn win out and play in the SEC title game, if UF wins, its hard to say that they are so much better than Auburn that Auburn should be left out of a BCS game. On the flip side, if Auburn beats them again, I think a solid case can be made for UT over UF for the remaining at-large spot. I wouldn't like it because it effectively would reward you for losing to UF in September and not having to play Auburn, but I'll confess that an argument could be made ...

 

[hatvol96]

Nothing exciting at all about the prospect of playing Wisconsin. Let's please get an opponent that recruits would be a little bit interested in seeing us play....



Now see, y'all got me sucked into this bowl business, and I'm nowhere near ready to start thinking about this.

The perfect matchup for UT would be to play OU in the Cotton Bowl.

 

[Low Country Vol]

How would you guys feel about the projection of the Cap I Bowl? Seems to me to be a lot less than you deseve, if you win out from here. But, I guess if Florida and Auburn win out and play in the SEC title game, if UF wins, its hard to say that they are so much better than Auburn that Auburn should be left out of a BCS game. On the flip side, if Auburn beats them again, I think a solid case can be made for UT over UF for the remaining at-large spot. I wouldn't like it because it effectively would reward you for losing to UF in September and not having to play Auburn, but I'll confess that an argument could be made ...

You lose in the SECCG you play your self out of the bcs. We were going to play for the national title in 2001 but since we lost we went to the capital 1 bowl against michigan. The loser the of the SECCG will play int the capital 1 bowl. UT is 8 now in the rankings. they win out they can be as high as 5 and will get an at large bcs bid. Who cares how close auburn and florida game is.

To lose 1 game all season by a single point will be sad to get a bid other than the bcs.

 

[Low Country Vol]

nevermind

 

[Low Country Vol]

"I think a solid case can be made for UT over UF for the remaining at-large spot. I wouldn't like it because it effectively would reward you for losing to UF in September"

Remember 2001
Quit your crying LAWgator!!! Did you complain in 2001 that you got the Orange bowl berth and we got the capital 1 and we did beat you in Florida.

If you complain about his year then you should regret taking that orange bowl bid in 2001. I dont want to hear how Florida got screwed. Just win your games. We deserve a bcs as much as florida did in 2001.

 

[utchatt]

I thought we were 11 in the BCS

 

[cotton]

Boise State isn't in the Mountain West. They're in the WAC.

There is a Mountain West and a WAC?

I am embarrassed:redface:

How would you guys feel about the projection of the Cap I Bowl? Seems to me to be a lot less than you deseve, if you win out from here.

I don't like it, but I do believe that if UT, UF, and Auburn all win out (meaning Ark is in the championship game,) Auburn will probably get the BCS bid over us. I'm not sure that is going to happen--the Hawgs might have a couple more losses in them--but if it does, just remember, you can't spell "Capital One" without...

no, wait...

yes you can. Nevermind.

 

[VolinArizona]

Texas would beat Boise State roughly 1,799 to 3.

Missed XP?

 

[VolInsider]

Insider's Tennessee Bowl Scenarios
(100% guaranteed to maybe be right):crazy:

Win out, not playing in SEC CG
Orange Bowl vs. Boston College

Win out, winning SEC CG
Sugar Bowl vs. Notre Dame

Win out, losing SEC CG
Cotton Bowl vs. Oklahoma or
Capital One Bowl vs. Wisconsin

Lose one more
Cotton Bowl vs. Oklahoma
Capital One Bowl vs. Wisconsin
Outback Bowl vs. Penn State

Lose two more
Peach Bowl vs. Clemson

Lose three or more
Who would care by then?

 

[utchatt]

If we win out that means Arky has 2 losses and AU wins out with only one lose, how does Arky go to the SECCG?

 

[hatvol96]

If we win out that means Arky has 2 losses and AU wins out with only one lose, how does Arky go to the SECCG?

Arkansas hasn't lost a conference game yet.

 

[utchatt]

OK thanks. Thats right their only loss was to USC

 

[lawgator1]

Remember 2001
Quit your crying LAWgator!!! Did you complain in 2001 that you got the Orange bowl berth and we got the capital 1 and we did beat you in Florida.

If you complain about his year then you should regret taking that orange bowl bid in 2001. I dont want to hear how Florida got screwed. Just win your games. We deserve a bcs as much as florida did in 2001.

Whoa there, sport. You need to read what I said a little more closely.

I said a case could be made for UT, just that I wouldn't like it -- and for the very reasons you point out in your post that happened to UT. I don't think its fair to lose and therefore "avoid" the opportunity to get knocked out of contention at the very end. Its sort of a strength of scheduling thing to me -- WVa. and L'ville avoid playing tough games and end up rewarded for it.

I don't like it, but I do believe that if UT, UF, and Auburn all win out (meaning Ark is in the championship game,) Auburn will probably get the BCS bid over us. I'm not sure that is going to happen--the Hawgs might have a couple more losses in them--but if it does, just remember, you can't spell "Capital One" without...

no, wait...

yes you can. Nevermind.

Yes, but you play Arkansas and so it could not be the case that both UT and Arkansas are one loss teams at end of season. If Arkansas wins out then by definition two things happen. First, UT is at least a two-loss team and so the discussion of a BCS bid for you is over. Second, Arkansas is in the SEC title game and Auburn is not and then it is Arkansas that can complain that, if they lose the SEC title game, then they might get passed over for BCS spot by Auburn even though Arky beat them.

Your best case scenario is of course that UF loses and you win out and represent the SECE. But assuming that does not happen, your best chance is for the SECW representative to have two losses. If so, and if UF wins, then the second place SEC team is probably viewed as UT and you get the at large birth. If the SECW team wins and gets the automatic birth, then you are in a bette rposition to jump over Florida in the BCS because Florida will have lost to a two-loss team, hurting their SOS and also giving them one additional loss.

Know what, as I map this out, your best bet is to win out, beating Arky in the process and have Auburn lose, as well. That way, Arky still wins SECW, but now you are competing against only one other one-loss team: UF. Then I'd give you a great shot at a BCS at-large birth, regardless of who wins the SEC title game.

Make sense?

 

[hatvol96]

Whoa there, sport. You need to read what I said a little more closely.

I said a case could be made for UT, just that I wouldn't like it -- and for the very reasons you point out in your post that happened to UT. I don't think its fair to lose and therefore "avoid" the opportunity to get knocked out of contention at the very end. Its sort of a strength of scheduling thing to me -- WVa. and L'ville avoid playing tough games and end up rewarded for it.




Yes, but you play Arkansas and so it could not be the case that both UT and Arkansas are one loss teams at end of season. If Arkansas wins out then by definition two things happen. First, UT is at least a two-loss team and so the discussion of a BCS bid for you is over. Second, Arkansas is in the SEC title game and Auburn is not and then it is Arkansas that can complain that, if they lose the SEC title game, then they might get passed over for BCS spot by Auburn even though Arky beat them.

Your best case scenario is of course that UF loses and you win out and represent the SECE. But assuming that does not happen, your best chance is for the SECW representative to have two losses. If so, and if UF wins, then the second place SEC team is probably viewed as UT and you get the at large birth. If the SECW team wins and gets the automatic birth, then you are in a bette rposition to jump over Florida in the BCS because Florida will have lost to a two-loss team, hurting their SOS and also giving them one additional loss.

Know what, as I map this out, your best bet is to win out, beating Arky in the process and have Auburn lose, as well. That way, Arky still wins SECW, but now you are competing against only one other one-loss team: UF. Then I'd give you a great shot at a BCS at-large birth, regardless of who wins the SEC title game.

Make sense?

If Arkansas only loses to UT, they represent the West. It doesn't matter what Auburn does.

 

[lawgator1]

If Arkansas only loses to UT, they represent the West. It doesn't matter what Auburn does.

Right, but in terms of UT slipping into the assumed at-large spot for the SEC, it is better to have Florida beat a two loss Arky team or have the two loss Arky team beat Florida in the SEC title game, than having 11-1 Auburn and 11-1 Florida play a good game and the loser drop very little in the polls.

The hardest scenario for you to get into the BCS at-large, it seems to me, is if you are trying to leapfrog Florida or Auburn if both teams, going into the SEC title game, are 11-1.

In other words, you want a two loss team in the SEC title game. Whether it is a two loss Florida or a two loss Arky or Auburn, you can overtake the loser of that game in BCS world if you have won out in the meantime.

 

[WA_Vol]

I think Florida plays in the sugar bowl and Auburn plays in the other BCS bowl and UT gets the shaft again probably playing in the Peach Bowl playing Wake Forest.