Bowl Projections (Too Soon)

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:biggrin:Vols vs. Memphis in the let's see who is the best team in the state bowl...anytime any place. :biggrin:
 
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volswin08 said:
:biggrin:Vols vs. Memphis in the let's see who is the best team in the state bowl...anytime any place. :biggrin:
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McMurphy and Schlabach on ESPN's website had Memphis playing LSU and Florida in the Peach Bowl. But I think Houston beats Memphis and may be playing those teams in the Peach Bowl.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Fox has us in the Music City vs. Minnesota. Not high on my list, but perhaps SEC is gonna have too many bowl teams this year.

Bowl projections for all 40 games, including College Football Playoff semifinals | FOX Sports
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I think Minnesota would be a tougher matchup than Pitt. It had Georgia against Kansas State in the Liberty Bowl. I don't think it matters if you have a losing record anymore because the Liberty Bowl takes the Big 12 #5 team. I think KSU goes 5-7 in the regular season.
 
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VolFootballnut said:
Those projections haven't been updated from last week. I think 8-4 Tennessee will play 9-3 Duke in the Belk Bowl.
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9-3 Duke would probably end up in the Russell Athletics Bowl, but if it didn't the only way it would get to the Belk Bowl would be if the Belk Bowl won the drawing for first pick in the ACC middle "pool" against the Taxslayer, Pinstripe, and Sun Bowl this year.

Wait, didn't we talk about this in the UNC-Pitt thread?
 
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VolFootballnut said:
It was snowing and very cold and Tennessee played like they didn't want to be there
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The possibility of that kind of weather in a stadium like that was pretty much the reason that the old Cotton Bowl disappeared off of the major bowl circuit when the major conferences moved from the old "Bowl Coalition" setup to the "Bowl Alliance" and later BCS setups.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I wouldn't mind a bowl against Miami. Wasn't that floating around a couple weeks ago? A PAC-12 matchup would be cool as well.
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Miami would have to finish well enough to earn a Taxslayer or Belk Bowl bid....meaning that they'd probably need to turn it on a bit more.


The SEC has no bowl contracts that are also tied in with opponents from the Pac-12. The only way the two would be in a year when the New Years 6 bowls that aren't so heavily (/contractually) affiliated to specific conferences weren't making up the playoff games (so when two out of the Cotton, Fiesta Peach Bowls aren't).

This year we'd pretty much have to finish ranked high enough to be invited to a New Years 6 bowl, but not be the second highest ranked SEC team, because it automatically goes to the Sugar this year. That still wouldn't guarantee the matchup though...as the top Pac-12 team (or 2nd highest, if one makes the playoffs) is already tied into the Rose Bowl.


The Fiesta or Peach Bowl would have to create such a matchup, although one has to take a high enough group of 5 team (likely the Peach Bowl, if it's Memphis) if it's up there in the rankings.

(Plus, if the ACC champ isn't in the playoffs, the Fiesta bowl has to take them since the Orange Bowl is hosting a playoff semifinal).
 
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VolFootballnut said:
McMurphy and Schlabach on ESPN's website had Memphis playing LSU and Florida in the Peach Bowl. But I think Houston beats Memphis and may be playing those teams in the Peach Bowl.
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If Houston beats them - and still ends up the highest non-Power 5 team - then Houston is probably in the Fiesta Bowl instead. Part of the reason the Peach Bowl's being predicted there is because it's the closest of the available New Years 6 bowls to where Memphis is.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Miami would have to finish well enough to earn a Taxslayer or Belk Bowl bid....meaning that they'd probably need to turn it on a bit more.


The SEC has no bowl contracts that are also tied in with opponents from the Pac-12. The only way the two would be in a year when the New Years 6 bowls that aren't so heavily (/contractually) affiliated to specific conferences weren't making up the playoff games (so when two out of the Cotton, Fiesta Peach Bowls aren't).

This year we'd pretty much have to finish ranked high enough to be invited to a New Years 6 bowl, but not be the second highest ranked SEC team, because it automatically goes to the Sugar this year. That still wouldn't guarantee the matchup though...as the top Pac-12 team (or 2nd highest, if one makes the playoffs) is already tied into the Rose Bowl.


The Fiesta or Peach Bowl would have to create such a matchup, although one has to take a high enough group of 5 team (likely the Peach Bowl, if it's Memphis) if it's up there in the rankings.

(Plus, if the ACC champ isn't in the playoffs, the Fiesta bowl has to take them since the Orange Bowl is hosting a playoff semifinal).
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I've seen a projection that had Miami playing Navy in the Military Bowl in Annapolis.
 
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volswin08 said:
:biggrin:Vols vs. Memphis in the let's see who is the best team in the state bowl...anytime any place. :biggrin:
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I don't think we'd see that mainly for travel and ratings. TN's not really a large enough state that any New Year's 6 bowl will want to double dip in this state, especially with one of the 2 teams being a mid-major.
 
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You just cant tell until the last minute on these secondary bowls. Friends of mine made reservations in Nashville last year only to change them 2 hours later for Jacksonville. Hardly anyone thought we were going to the Taxslayer...until we were.
 
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VolFootballnut said:
I've seen a projection that had Miami playing Navy in the Military Bowl in Annapolis.
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Meaning they're saying that overall record-wise, Miami would be finishing around 8th to 10th among the ACC teams (7th if no ACC team makes the playoffs).
 
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Ernest T. Vol said:
You just cant tell until the last minute on these secondary bowls. Friends of mine made reservations in Nashville last year only to change them 2 hours later for Jacksonville. Hardly anyone thought we were going to the Taxslayer...until we were.
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It's changed now. The middle 6 - Music City, Taxslayer, Outback, Texas, Liberty, Belk - are now a "pool" that pretty much the SEC offices decide who goes to which bowl game. It's no longer an order of finish at that level / among those anymore.
 
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Interestingly, the people making the Bowl Projections at CollegeFootballNews.com are saying it could get messy for the bowls. (I'm not saying it'll necessarily happen, but it is interesting.)


Bowl Projections, Nov. 2. Things Are About To Get Crazy | College Football News

If OSU, Michigan State, and Iowa all end up high enough to be in Playoff or New Years 6 bowls (which, considering Iowa wouldn't play either of those two until the Big 10 championship, could very easily happen...with one undefeated and the other 2 losing only 1 game), there's currently only 4 other Big 10 teams currently eligible for the remaining 8 Big 10 bowl tie-ins.

With likely only about 2 surplus bowl-eligible mid-major teams available outside of their group-of-5 conference contracts...if Illinois, Indiana, and Minnesota don't to get it together, before the season ends, there's a good chance in that scenario that process would reach the "Academic Progress Report" point, which would mean some 5-7 teams would end up in the mix...with namely the following being the highest on that ladder of those 5-win teams: Georgia Tech - APR 978, Missouri (were they to beat BYU) - APR 976, Virginia Tech - APR 977, and Indiana - APR 977.
 
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VolFootballnut said:
I think Minnesota would be a tougher matchup than Pitt. It had Georgia against Kansas State in the Liberty Bowl. I don't think it matters if you have a losing record anymore because the Liberty Bowl takes the Big 12 #5 team. I think KSU goes 5-7 in the regular season.
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The Liberty Bowl only has 5th selection if the Big 12 champ doesn't make the playoffs.

More importantly, though: it only takes the 5th highest available Big 12 team if that team's bowl eligible; otherwise the bowl defaults to inviting any other bowl-eligible teams after the other bowls have all fulfilled conference contract requirements (for example, an extra 6-win SEC team leftover ).

The bowl will never be required to select an ineligible KSU team just because it's the 5th (remaining) Big 12 team.

The only time a less than 6-win team gets invited to a bowl requires some special circumstances where there aren't enough eligible teams for all the bowls, and even then the 5-7 teams that get that special privilege are based on APR numbers...which KSU's are too low.
 
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VolFootballnut said:
I've seen a projection that had Miami playing Navy in the Military Bowl in Annapolis.
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I'm kind of surprised that Navy isn't getting a little more love from the media. I always like to see the military academies do well, and these guys are 6-1 with their only loss being a respectable one against Notre Dame. I could definitely see them giving Memphis trouble this weekend. That offense drives everyone crazy haha.
 
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On ESPN's week 9 bowl projections they had Tennessee playing Duke in the Belk Bowl. They picked Tennessee to play in the Belk Bowl in the SEC week 9 bowl projections and had Duke in the Belk Bowl in the week 9 ACC bowl projections.
 
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TrueOrange said:
The Liberty Bowl only has 5th selection if the Big 12 champ doesn't make the playoffs.

More importantly, though: it only takes the 5th highest available Big 12 team if that team's bowl eligible; otherwise the bowl defaults to inviting any other bowl-eligible teams after the other bowls have all fulfilled conference contract requirements (for example, an extra 6-win SEC team leftover ).

The bowl will never be required to select an ineligible KSU team just because it's the 5th (remaining) Big 12 team.

The only time a less than 6-win team gets invited to a bowl requires some special circumstances where there aren't enough eligible teams for all the bowls, and even then the 5-7 teams that get that special privilege are based on APR numbers...which KSU's are too low.
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In other words - to many bowl games. 42 at last count - yet the powers to be say that a true playoff system just isn't logistically possible. :blink:
 
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