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#51
#51
Clemson Volunteer Fan said:
Collapse? Far from it, yet. If you'll remember back to just last year they were in the ACC title game and gave UNC a run for their money (for the third time in the same season).
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How'd they do in the NCAA Tournament? What was their record in their last 10 regular season games? Georgia made a nice little run in the SEC Tournament last year. That didn't change the fact they sucked.
 
#52
#52
blupotato said:
bradley central. that kid is bad a55. i wish he was at ut. we would have a real shooter. at this point i just want to make the tourney. the reality is we probably won't go far when we get there. but i would rather make the dance and not lose in the nit and be embarassed in march. i feel pretty good about our chances at making the tourney unless we just fall flat from here on out. but with this team who knows what will happen. a win vs. ky will certainly help.
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Yea he is doing great, im really happy to see him doing well for Clemson. He actually is from east tennessee first and were he went to middle school but our HS basketball team is garbage and nobody gets noticed from there so he packed up and his family moved to bradley central.
 
#53
#53
hatvol96 said:
Georgia made a nice little run in the SEC Tournament last year. That didn't change the fact they sucked.
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I really hope you aren't implying that Clemson "sucked" last year. Falling victim to the 12-5 game isn't something to be proud of, but if you think Clemson sucked last year or this year you might want to reconsider.
 
#54
#54
Clemson Volunteer Fan said:
I really hope you aren't implying that Clemson "sucked" last year. Falling victim to the 12-5 game isn't something to be proud of, but if you think Clemson sucked last year or this year you might want to reconsider.
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You're crazy if you don't think Clemson's notorious for being choke artists.
 
#55
#55
Clemson is defenitely notorious for being choke artists there is no question about it. Will this years team be different? who know, maybe. But history shows that this team is notorious for choking.
 
#56
#56
utbasketballloft said:
Clemson is defenitely notorious for being choke artists there is no question about it. Will this years team be different? who know, maybe. But history shows that this team is notorious for choking.
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True but this team seems to be avoiding the collapse so far being that they are 20-4.
 
#57
#57
Nobody knows what Clemson will do this year obviously because none of us can see the future, eventhough sometimes i would like to. It is simply just history and the track record the Clemson and Oliver Purnell have that they choke. They start off great and then fade into the back of the field. This years team seems to be different so far this year, as this time last year and the year before they had already started their downwards fall. I do believe they will end up finishing the ACC good, but in the NCAA Tourney i have some doubts as to exactly how good they will do.
 
#58
#58
Until proven otherwise, the main audience will still continue to say that Clemson is a fraud. You said it right in your first sentence.
 
#59
#59
I may have missed something here but when did people start believing Clemson was a good team?.. im serious when did this start, and what made ppl all of a sudden start thinking Clemson was a good team.. Im trying to remember past NCAA tourneys, ACC tourneys, etc.. and I just can't come up with where Clemson accomplished anything that would result in them having supporters
 
#61
#61
TennesseeFan07 said:
Until proven otherwise, the main audience will still continue to say that Clemson is a fraud. You said it right in your first sentence.
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Serious question: Specifically, what does Clemson need to do to prove that they're not frauds? This question is directed to all those on this board who have doubts. Does Clemson need to beat Duke (again) by 30 points? Win the ACC tournament? Make the Sweet Sixteen? I'd just like to know what specifically would constitute a successful season.

FWIW, I'm not a Clemson fan, but I have seen them play up close this year and came away impressed.
 
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#63
#63
notverycrucial said:
Serious question: Specifically, what does Clemson need to do to prove that they're not frauds? This question is directed to all those on this board who have doubts. Does Clemson need to beat Duke (again) by 30 points? Win the ACC tournament? Make the Sweet Sixteen? I'd just like to know what specifically would constitute a successful season.

FWIW, I'm not a Clemson fan, but I have seen them play up close this year and came away impressed.
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Probably make it to the championship game of the ACC tourney unless they lose in the previous game to either Duke, or NC or maybe even Wake Forest would be ok. But in the NCAA TOURNEY they HAVE to make it to ATLEAST the sweet 16, anything less and it will be seen as another choke job.
 
#64
#64
notverycrucial said:
Serious question: Specifically, what does Clemson need to do to prove that they're not frauds? This question is directed to all those on this board who have doubts. Does Clemson need to beat Duke (again) by 30 points? Win the ACC tournament? Make the Sweet Sixteen? I'd just like to know what specifically would constitute a successful season.

FWIW, I'm not a Clemson fan, but I have seen them play up close this year and came away impressed.
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Make it past the first weekend of the tournament maybe? For a program that seems to always be mad about their lack of respect you would think they could manage to win a game or two in the tournament.
 
#65
#65
TennesseeFan07 said:
Make it past the first weekend of the tournament maybe? For a program that seems to always be mad about their lack of respect you would think they could manage to win a game or two in the tournament.
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my thoughts exactly on this one. Basically they have to make it to the championship of the acc tourney in my mind unless maybe a loss to duke or nc i can excuse. but come tourney time anything less than a sweet 16 appearance will not cut it. and depending on the draw for the sweet 16 a loss may not work either. Its time to put up or shut up for them.
 
#66
#66
getyopopcornready said:
I may have missed something here but when did people start believing Clemson was a good team?.. im serious when did this start, and what made ppl all of a sudden start thinking Clemson was a good team.. Im trying to remember past NCAA tourneys, ACC tourneys, etc.. and I just can't come up with where Clemson accomplished anything that would result in them having supporters
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Being 20-4 at this point in the season and tied for 2nd in one of the top 2 conferences (acc and big east is a toss up) at this point in the season makes them a good team. Even last year after they struggled down the stretch they made it to the finals of the acc tourney and gave unc a run.
 
#67
#67
They were in the ACC Championship game last year! All of you who don't think that they have ever been good or that they need to make it to the ACCCG to be "real" then do your homework.
 
#68
#68
Clemson Volunteer Fan said:
They were in the ACC Championship game last year!
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I love it when myopic ACC fans act as if the rest of the world waits with baited breath for their conference tournament. News Flash: No tournament that regularly holds its finals in a hick haven like Greensboro means that much. Win something of consequence in the tournament that matters, then we'll talk.
 
#69
#69
hatvol96 said:
(1)I love it when myopic ACC fans act as if the rest of the world waits with baited breath for their conference tournament. (2) News Flash: No tournament that regularly holds its finals in a hick haven like Greensboro means that much. (3) Win something of consequence in the tournament that matters, then we'll talk.
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1) Nobody made this argument.
2) This is relevant how?
3) Specifically, what does that mean for this year?
 
#70
#70
hatvol96 said:
I love it when myopic ACC fans act as if the rest of the world waits with baited breath for their conference tournament. News Flash: No tournament that regularly holds its finals in a hick haven like Greensboro means that much. Win something of consequence in the tournament that matters, then we'll talk.
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You mean people actually judge a program based on what happens in March and April? It seems as if Clemson has become a model basketball tradition based upon results in November and December every year and the occasional upset they'll make during conference play.
 
#71
#71
notverycrucial said:
1) Nobody made this argument.
The Clemson shill trumpeted the Tigers' ACC Championship appearance as if that validated their program. He even used an exclamation point, so it had to be important.
2) This is relevant how?
Important championships are generally contested in important places. Playing in a city best known for hosting the first Starrcade doesn't scream "Marquee Event."
3) Specifically, what does that mean for this year?
Clemson might want to see the second weekend of the 'AAs before they start screaming for respect.
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There you go.
 
#72
#72
Hat, just to clarify, are you saying that if Clemson makes it to the second weekend of the NCAA's then they deserve respect?
 
#75
#75
I dont understand what people arent understanding. Yes Clemson is a good team OBVIOUSLY but that doesnt mean that they are considered a powerhouse, or strong basketball school. They are thought of as choke artists which is their own fault and nobody elses. It means nothing what you do during the season and not much more important during the conference tournament. All respect comes what you do during much in the actual meaningful tournament. In this tournament Clemson has done nothing, therefore earning themselves the reputation that they have. No matter what they do during the year they will not be looked at any different until they do something in the NCAA TOURNEY. Look at the year St. Joseph's had about 6 or 7 years ago, they went undefeated in the regular season and conference tourney and then got bounced. Who remember them at all for being a great team or a powerhouse school. Until you do something in March you will never be anything more than a mediocare college basketball team.
 
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