Brandon Wimbush

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Nocleats said:
Having 4 OCs in 4 Years can mess a QBs mind up..
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In what ways?

Most of the skills development is similar. There may be some different approaches to film study but is that really enough to mess up someone's mind?

You could just as easily say that 4 different people tried to fix these problems and none succeeded.

I think he has great physical skills. He's tough. From what we see, he is a team leader. But if he doesn't improve some things that in more than 3 years now he hasn't improved... he limits UT's O beyond anything the OL has done or failed to do. I wanted to believe he had improved prior to this season. I want to believe he will... but he hasn't and there is a possibility that he just doesn't have the particular talents to do those things well.

PS- the OL has had different coaches too, right? Does that excuse apply to them? If so, why is it not needed for other programs?
 
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Nocleats said:
Not being a smartarse , but why would a dual threat QB consider going to a place where the change is being made to run a pro set offense? Just curious
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I believe we ran some qb options last year, but he handed off just like under butch's offense. And if Yurcich comes that will surely be an option for any qb willing to run.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
maurer is better and younger.
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Incoming kid with 12 INTs in high school? How many would he throw in the SEC? Hell, he was getting picked all over in 7-on-7 camps, one reason he never improved his rating. He has potential, but a loooong way to go.
 
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Devo182 said:
Incoming kid with 12 INTs in high school? How many would he throw in the SEC? Hell, he was getting picked all over in 7-on-7 camps, one reason he never improved his rating. He has potential, but a loooong way to go.
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Ryan Hilinski is the number 2 Pro style qb in the class threw 10 ints with about 80 less attempts.
 
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Weezer said:
What was your opinion on Jalen Hurts and Kelly Bryant? Or Justin Fields?

But I agree about not being interested in this particular kid.
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Justin Fields is the only one I'd be interested in cause he'd have 3 years left to play, but that's not gonna happen.
 
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just because a qb is going to transfer,it doesn't mean we have a need to recruit him to UT.Wimbush was beaten out.Pruitt has Strout and Mauer.It would have to be a very good qb to consider as a grad transfer,not a qb to sit out a year.
 
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lexkyvol said:
Is currently the #2 QB on Notre Dame's roster and plans on transferring after the college football playoffs. He is a true Dual Threat. Think he considers Tennessee? Wonder why this is the first post about him!
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I would take the Buffalo QB, who is a grad transfer over Winbush. A big kid with a huge arm.
 
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VolsFan5 said:
Disagree. I take a run at Jalen Hurts. Love to have him to bridge us until Harrison Bailey gets on campus in January 2020
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I am generally against one year rentals. I don't think he's good enough to be worth the spot for one year. JMO. I'm perfectly fine with the 3 we will have on the roster next season.
 
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beneVOLence said:
I think the one positive for bringing Chryst was preserving Shrouts redshirt. At he same time I wouldn't want to bring this kid in, but I wouldn't be surprised if we try to have another body at the QB spot.
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Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if CJP brought a grad transfer in at QB just to have some experience at the position. It only takes one snap! Let's just hope our Vols have an injury-free season, because we are going to need all the help we can get.
 
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I stand by it... Barry Muarrer gonna be running the QB show by game 4 next year.
 
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sjt18 said:
Nope. Need much better QB play too. JG needs to read D's better and make better decisions faster. Not all of those hits were on the OL... many were because he has to "think" after the snap. IIRC, one of Cutcliffe's fixes for Ainge was a 2.5 second clock in his head. QB's just can't expect to have time for a receiver to get open before they throw. They have to read and anticipate. JG is lagging in that respect.

Before you argue with me... explain why Dormady was sacked 3 or 4 times last year while JG was sacked over 30 behind the same guys.

After watching video of KC at Stanford, I didn't think he was the solution. Still, he didn't take the hits or sacks that JG did in his real playing time. His decisions weren't consistently good... but they were made in the right amount of time. A good decision made late... is often a bad decision.
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Couldn't agree more! I know the o-line has been awful, but some of the sacks were absolutely because a 3 step drop became a pause instead of getting the ball out once he set his feet. Often when he did have time, the ball came out late. I concede multiple schemes in 4 years hasn't helped, but to say JG is fine with time in the pocket is a joke. He does not trust his read consistently and wants to see the receiver open before the throw. That's not how it works in big boy ball. Ball has to be in the air before the receiver comes out of his break. You have to throw to a spot. I invite any of you to watch the Vandy film. Even in his best game (Auburn IMO), the ball came out late on deep throws but Jennings and Calloway made up for it by hawking. He has one year left to all of the sudden start making the right decisions and throw the ball on time. Have to concede that he is tough as nails, but I feel no matter who is OC, the offense will be limited and inconsistent until we have someone else under center.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Not interested in back-up quarterbacks
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Now, now, if a Jalen Hurts or Fields ( just examples ) announced there transfer location and it was Knoxville, you would be saying JG who like most of us.

My point is that never say never and don't deal in absolutes. Because if the right person comes along and had more talent he will move to the #1 position. Hopefully the large group of linemen we just signed and hopefully the cure and return Trey Smith improve our O-line play exponentially. Just saying it's about time we get some good karma mojo or whatever term you want to insert here goes our way. Who knows we bound to get lucky one of these days.
 
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JohnnyD1024 said:
Well he was the starter in 2017 and the first 3 games this season. He's 13 and 3 as a starter. But there's probably a reason he lost his spot though.
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And as we have all heard chryst was 11- 2 at Stanford, but that doesn't mean the rest of their roster is coming with him
 
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TNDRIVER said:
Now, now, if a Jalen Hurts or Fields ( just examples ) announced there transfer location and it was Knoxville, you would be saying JG who like most of us.

My point is that never say never and don't deal in absolutes. Because if the right person comes along and had more talent he will move to the #1 position. Hopefully the large group of linemen we just signed and hopefully the cure and return Trey Smith improve our O-line play exponentially. Just saying it's about time we get some good karma mojo or whatever term you want to insert here goes our way. Who knows we bound to get lucky one of these days.
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Neither of those guys would be back ups.

If I understand the point of that post... it is that UT doesn't need someone just to come as a back up. I've watched Wimbush play a few games... I hate ND almost as bad as UF. He's not someone who can help the Vols right now.
 
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reaperkyle said:
Couldn't agree more! I know the o-line has been awful, but some of the sacks were absolutely because a 3 step drop became a pause instead of getting the ball out once he set his feet. Often when he did have time, the ball came out late. I concede multiple schemes in 4 years hasn't helped, but to say JG is fine with time in the pocket is a joke. He does not trust his read consistently and wants to see the receiver open before the throw. That's not how it works in big boy ball. Ball has to be in the air before the receiver comes out of his break. You have to throw to a spot. I invite any of you to watch the Vandy film. Even in his best game (Auburn IMO), the ball came out late on deep throws but Jennings and Calloway made up for it by hawking. He has one year left to all of the sudden start making the right decisions and throw the ball on time. Have to concede that he is tough as nails, but I feel no matter who is OC, the offense will be limited and inconsistent until we have someone else under center.
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You said that much better than me... and showed respect for JG.

I have never wanted him to fail. The best of all worlds for UT is if it finally "clicks" with him. But in 3 years... it hasn't while with most guys it does in that time.
 
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NEVolFan said:
I stand by it... Barry Muarrer gonna be running the QB show by game 4 next year.
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